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I think that's a great price and if I where you, I'd have the IMS solution installed ASAP if you plan on keeping the car long term. The last "cream puff" purchase here failed a couple of weeks into new ownership just a couple of months ago. New owner ignored the advice to change his IMSB and ended up having to replace his motor. The 01 single row are the worst!
First of all, congratulations on this beautiful, unique 996. I love the color combination!
Now to shift gears if I may. This is a classic case of a garage queen and so I wonder what condition the IMS and other internal components are in? Not trying to be a downer, but I've heard many times, that garage queens are some of the worst offenders of IMS bearing failures (ref - PCA IMS videos) and since this is a 2001 car, I assume is has the single row bearing? Did the Porsche shop conduct an oil anaylsis, manometer test, bore scoped the cylinders, and ECU evaluation? What was the outcome?
Thanks, and welcome to the Porsche community!
I have heard this low mileage story so many times - there are many failures across mileages. I have a '99 Boxster that has under 6,000 miles (bought new). I had the IMS replaced three years ago and it was absolutely as new. I would still strongly recommend an IMS replacement as there is no sense in taking the risk, no matter the mileage, and the sooner the better.
I just noticed you are in the Philly area. Did you get this local? I didn't see this one pop up in the area or I would have checked it out although it was probably out of my price range with those miles. *edit just saw the price you paid, seems like a killer deal to me.
I think that's a great price and if I where you, I'd have the IMS solution installed ASAP if you plan on keeping the car long term. The last "cream puff" purchase here failed a couple of weeks into new ownership just a couple of months ago. New owner ignored the advice to change his IMSB and ended up having to replace his motor. The 01 single row are the worst!
I didn't read of any oil change yet? I would asap. Remove filter from cartridge and cut ends off with razor blade and carefully examine (magnifying glass) for particles. Here's mine, 4500 miles after my sump pan was removed for ims bearing pre qualification. I believe the 5 black pieces are silicone sealant. The other are pieces of filter paper. One tiny sliver of metal hardly noticeable in photo.
I just noticed you are in the Philly area. Did you get this local? I didn't see this one pop up in the area or I would have checked it out although it was probably out of my price range with those miles. *edit just saw the price you paid, seems like a killer deal to me.
I work in the car business as a finance manager and it was a vehicle we took in on trade.
Now I'm looking at moving up the time line. Just reached out the closest installer of the IMS Solution (Specialty Cars, Allentown PA) for some info as well as a local Porsche shop that did the PPI for me (Provost Motorsports, Bordentown NJ) for some info to see which route to go. I know most would say just go with the IMS Solution and I'll probably do that but want to arm myself with all the info. I've done so much reading on it as of late I feel like all the info has ran together in my mind.
I've done so much reading on it as of late I feel like all the info has ran together in my mind.
I know what you mean. As a recent purchaser myself, I've read a ton and it all runs together and makes your head spin. For sure, none of us want to trash our engines and make a large investment turn upside down in an instant. Definitely get your IMSB addressed ASAP--you don't want to become a statistic by waiting.
My recommendations are:
1) Install IMS Solution (At the same time replace AOS, RMS, Water pump, thermostat)
2) Keep the 18" wheels
3) Install some coilovers
4) Drive it and enjoy!
Now I'm looking at moving up the time line. Just reached out the closest installer of the IMS Solution (Specialty Cars, Allentown PA) for some info as well as a local Porsche shop that did the PPI for me (Provost Motorsports, Bordentown NJ) for some info to see which route to go. I know most would say just go with the IMS Solution and I'll probably do that but want to arm myself with all the info. I've done so much reading on it as of late I feel like all the info has ran together in my mind.
Just my 5 cents. IMS is a weak point of this cars? yes. But reading this forum it looks that you have to change it because all of them will fail sooner than later... That is far away from reality. These cars are more reliable than people here think. I have been in forums since 1995 and I have never seem such high hysteria about one topic like here with the IMS...
You have a really nice car. Have your oil analysis done and if nothing shows up, drive the car and keep a good maintenance, with good oil, respecting warming times, etc. Dont freak out about the IMS. Keep an eye on it (you can check it if you have to do clutch for instance) and that is.
Just my 5 cents. IMS is a weak point of this cars? yes. But reading this forum it looks that you have to change it because all of them will fail sooner than later... That is far away from reality. These cars are more reliable than people here think. I have been in forums since 1995 and I have never seem such high hysteria about one topic like here with the IMS...
You have a really nice car. Have your oil analysis done and if nothing shows up, drive the car and keep a good maintenance, with good oil, respecting warming times, etc. Dont freak out about the IMS. Keep an eye on it (you can check it if you have to do clutch for instance) and that is.
That is my opionion.
Good advice, just keep an eye on the IMS, and when it fails...replace the entire engine. (estimated cost: $15,000-$25,000)
...or replace it with The IMS Solution and never worry about an IMS bearing failure again.
There is no "catching an IMS bearing failure early."
When the IMS bearing fails, it sends tiny pieces of metal throughout the engine.
Rod and main bearings really love those tiny metal pieces.
Having The IMS Solution installed will make selling the car easier if you do decide to flip it.
Also I bet it will add to the value too.
Good advice, just keep an eye on the IMS, and when it fails...replace the entire engine. (estimated cost: $15,000-$25,000)
...or replace it with The IMS Solution and never worry about an IMS bearing failure again.
There is no "catching an IMS bearing failure early."
When the IMS bearing fails, it sends tiny pieces of metal throughout the engine.
Rod and main bearings really love those tiny metal pieces.
Having The IMS Solution installed will make selling the car easier if you do decide to flip it.
Also I bet it will add to the value too.
Well... why the IMS solution? There are other solutions out there (Direct Oil Feed, etc). It would think that you have some interest on people installing that solution (just asking)
What I highlight in black, would be ok... if the IMS will fail for sure. Do you have any data that support that affirmation? Why should assume that my IMS is going to fail, when most of cars doesnt fail?
For me, a better advices is, enjoy your car, keep it well maintained, use good lubricants, respect warming times, etc and when you have to do the clutch, check the IMS and if is needed (or wanted), change it.
If somebody wants to go and make a preventive chage on the engine with aftermarket parts, its ok. I am not even saying that is correct or not. But if you have a healthy engine (and these engines have demostrated that they are really realiable in most cases) dont messing with it and leaving all the factory parts working properly could be another option.
I dont like that rule "written in stone" about having to change the IMS yes or yes. Actually, Porsche workshop process specifically says to change the flange but not the bearing. Why?... I dont know but they also know something about their engines
There are a lot of opinions out there from forums and workshops outside of the US. This is one well reputed 911 specialist in Madrid (http://porsche911madrid.com/REVISION...0TALLERES.html). If you don't read Spanish, I will translate the highlights. More than 1000 M96 engines sold. More than 150 yearly maintenances. 1 single IMS failure. 4 IMS changed "in stremis" in cars with high milleage and no maintenance records.
The best thing is that... anyone can do whatever they want. There are plenty of options... and thats good
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