Gemballa or Factory Aero?
01-16-2004, 09:44 PM
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Both wings have their own unique aesthetics. That being said, you should ask if you want the wing for cosmetic purposes or for functional high speed driving. The Porsche Factory unit has many hours of wind tunnel engineering behind its design. If you do drive over 200 k.p.h., the Porsche unit would probably function best aerodynamically as well as acoustically. Any wind tunnel testing on the Gembella unit would be surprising [since it is too expensive for most small manufacturers].
What you do NOT want from a wing is aerodynamic drag, that would impede your positive acceleration, nor aerodynamic lift, nor aerodynamic perturbations causing unusual harmonics [and a wind tunnel is the proper device for inspection of a wing design].
What you do NOT want from a wing is aerodynamic drag, that would impede your positive acceleration, nor aerodynamic lift, nor aerodynamic perturbations causing unusual harmonics [and a wind tunnel is the proper device for inspection of a wing design].
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01-17-2004, 09:04 PM
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If 'Chitownbob' is 'sure' that Gembella does wind tunnel testing of its aerokits, would he please contact them and have them send this forum photographs and test results of its data. This way we could verify what he has stated as being correct AND we could determine aerodynamic and acoustic efficiencies for a non-Porsche manufactured product. Since Porsche features photos and articles about its wind tunnel testing in its literature, surely Gembella would be willing to do the same for its Porsche customers. What is fair for one is fair for all.
01-17-2004, 09:29 PM
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Thanks DougH, my sentiments exaclty. Hey Bentley, you assumed that Gemballa doesn't test because it is a small manufacturer and it would be prohibitively expensive. Gemballa isn't a small manufactuter and although I don't have any evidence to show that they do such testing, you haven't shown anything to prove they do. That being said, it is fair to assume that a respected tuner such as Gemballa or Ruf would create products that would enhance the P-cars performance and looks and are not just made for looks alone. Maybe I am mistaken but I believe that to be the case. If I'm wrong so be it. I don't really care that much because I don't intend on driving 200KPH anytime soon.
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01-18-2004, 12:32 PM
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You gentlemen who subscribe to the idea that Gembella does do wind tunnel testing should merely answer my posting by contacting them and letting us know the answer. You do not answer a question by asking a question. Equally if Doug H wants to know if Aloise performs wind tunnel testing he should contact him and let us know. I do know that Porsche performs wind tunnel testing as I have stated. Why don't you gentlemen provide this forum with the answer about these aftermarket suppliers? Is there some reason why you will not do this?
01-18-2004, 01:27 PM
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Bentley:
So I take it that your answer is you don't have any knowledge regarding what product research has been put into any of the aftermarket aerokit packages and pretty clueless when it comes to this topic. Maybe if you spent as much time researching your pontifications as you do proof reading them, they would be useful. I asked the question because I was genuinely curious about the products, but not curious enough to bother Aliose Ruf himself. That's pretty silly.
Anyone have any first hand experience with the Tech Art III? I have had a 996 C2 with the a factory aero package (gone now) and my Turbo has the factory aero package. I have also driven a full Ruf and the Ruf seemed better planted and more stable at very high speeds. I am thinking about adding the Tech Art III spoiler to my new 04 996, but it is more for show than go.
So I take it that your answer is you don't have any knowledge regarding what product research has been put into any of the aftermarket aerokit packages and pretty clueless when it comes to this topic. Maybe if you spent as much time researching your pontifications as you do proof reading them, they would be useful. I asked the question because I was genuinely curious about the products, but not curious enough to bother Aliose Ruf himself. That's pretty silly.
Anyone have any first hand experience with the Tech Art III? I have had a 996 C2 with the a factory aero package (gone now) and my Turbo has the factory aero package. I have also driven a full Ruf and the Ruf seemed better planted and more stable at very high speeds. I am thinking about adding the Tech Art III spoiler to my new 04 996, but it is more for show than go.
01-18-2004, 05:01 PM
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Wow. Nobody is denying that Porsche does wind testing. I think your statement that Gemballa/Ruf is simply wrong. You said it first, you shoud prove it. Honestly, I don't really care to prove anything to you Bentley. As for why I don't inquire. Quite simply, I don't have the time or inclination to find out. My only question is exactly how old are you. Im guessing about 18 or so due to immaturity and confrontational attitude in your posts. Why don't you go prove me wrong or leave me alone with my "wrong" opinion.
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01-18-2004, 05:39 PM
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I did not realize you were so sensitive. If you don't care to know the technical truth that is your bane. It just seems one should not assume research has been performed by a vendor just because it brings out a product. It may be to a Porsche owner's detriment to do so.