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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Forgive me is this is a stupid question but a friend of mine did a PPI on a 99 996 today. The mechanic said the car checked out fine but the he should not buy a 99. He didn't say why & being a 993 owner I really didn't know the anwser as to why he said that other then the first year of any model tends to have problems!!

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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You are absolutely right. Your friend should buy a 2004 c2, or better yet, a 2004 GT3.

Otherwise, check this link: 99 996
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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I've owned both a 1999 996 C2 and a very late production 2001 C2. The difference between the two was night and day.

Many problems with the 1999 (RMS twice, squeeks, rattles, electrical....). The 2001 was rock solid (although the RMS failed within 2 months).

Can't say strongly enough that (if the budget affords) buy the newest 996 you can afford. The best choice would of course be a 2002 or newer version since it has increased performance, variable valve timing and an updated f/r fascia.

I would rather have a 2001 with twice the miles of a similar 1999 996. (assuming the cars are in similar conditions).
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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I had a 2/98 build 996 C2. The only problem I had since I took ownership was a bad battery. It was still running the original rear main seal and coolant expansion tank (typical problems on early 996's) when I traded it in September with 22K miles. Some cars got issues, others have none.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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...and the 99 model year is also out of warranty for those that get some piece of mind from that.

Being the financially conservative type (ie, cars are for fun, not investment or for sitting in the shop), I try to avoid the first year of any model run of any car. I bought my 2001 model in 2003 (and let the original owner swallow the 40% depreciation)...but I didn't want to consider the 2002 model year (even with nice looking facelift and extra hp) because the brochure screamed that 80% of the engine parts were of new design. Seemed like an opportunity for lots to go wrong.

I don't hear too many complaints about the MY2002 reliability though...so maybe there's an example of Porsche pushing the technology without significant reliability fallout. Hope so.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Well, my .02 worth (although an owner for a SHORT time) is that there are problems with some and not others. I did a ton of board reading before I bought my 99.

In general problems of major magnitude are a small percentage of cars on the road. For example; look at the major issue with BMW's e46 M3. Of the cars on the road, the amount of engine failures was realativly low (but cost a load to repair). That example was also limited to a realativly tight production range.

The one thing that bothers me abut the RMS issue is its presence in a wide range of modle year cars. I am keeping my fingers crossed on my RMS
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:16 PM
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just wondering if RMS happens within a defined time interval.... most RMS failures I read about on this board happen fairly early... one Porsche mechanic who I spoke to said that if it hasn't happened by 40,000 miles it won't ever happen.... this kind of makes sense cause the RMS failure is based (so I'm told) on a manufacturing defect where certain parts are not within specifications so is it safe to assume that if it hasn't happened in 40,000 miles that particular part responsible for RMS failure is within acceptable manufacturing tolerances and it will never fail because it has been properly manufactured? ... food for thought...
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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I have '99 for over 2 years and with some minor thingies fixed under warranty car has been rock solid.
Granted '02 is better car, but the price difference might not be justified for fractional improvement.
JMHO
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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Bought my MY99 one year ago October with 22,000. New battery @ 25,000. RMS failed at 29,000. Porsche fixed out of warranty for free. No other problems. I have put 8000 miles since purchase. Absolutely love the car. I suppose if I could afford a newer one I would buy one but the 99 was in my budget range. Right now stored for the long northeast winter.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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I have a '99 996 Cab, bought new 11/98, with few problems. Usual maintenance items, and I did have the dreaded airbag light problem upon delivery. Engine runs great, suspension is fine (even settled in a bit from original delivery), it does eat rubber though (on 5th set of rears at 34K miles). Replaced coolant tank, replaced MAF sensor at 30k service, and unfortunately had to replace failed canvas top/rear plastic window (it's a cab, and Porsche does not stand behind their cab tops for one hour outside of warranty).

But in the end, it's tight as a tick, quiet, and runs like a bat out of hell.

Guards/Savannah/Black, in showroom condition, low mileage. Could be yours soon.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Sloth
I had a 2/98 build 996 C2. The only problem I had since I took ownership was a bad battery. It was still running the original rear main seal and coolant expansion tank (typical problems on early 996's) when I traded it in September with 22K miles. Some cars got issues, others have none.
Same here for the most part, my 99 has 70+ K on it now ... putting the winter miles on it daily ... no RMS or ex. tank problem. Prev. owner had to replace battery, and I had to replace the mufflers, it does rattle more than my 01, but hey it's got 70K on it ... and it was the base model.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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Eric,

Have my bumperettes off, packed, and ready to ship to you for painting right after the new year.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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Hi. Bought a '99 C4 w/9600 miles on the clock. I have put about 500 miles on the car. After spending a lot of time reading posts on this forum I am afraid to drive it. Perhaps in the spring I will park it in the front yard and turn it into a very expensive flower pot. OK I'm kidding. I hope to enjoy many uneventful miles. Good luck!
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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I had a '99 996 cab that I took delivery on in Oct. 1998. It was a daily driver for 3 yrs. and had 55k mi. when I traded it in for an '02 cab. I never had any serious problems with the '99 other than the well-known air bag and check engine light issues. On the other hand, with the '02 I had both the RMS problem and had to have the instrument cluster replaced.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 02:54 AM
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I own a '99 C2, purchased about a year ago. I now have 62k miles on it and so far so good (keeping my fingers crossed). I also autocross the car as often as I can. Service history for my car shows a new transmission at 14k miles as well as the coolant tanks (twice replaced under warrantee) but since I picked up the car I haven't had any issues.
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