sfbanchs

I just hit 96k on mine. It is in perfect shape inside and out service records since day one all books keys manuals etc. Because of the mileage i don't think i could get much more than 100k, but like most of us owners i would rather have the car than the cash

Parnelli

The '96 red/black 85K mile car is now $105K (dropped from $110K).

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...911-turbo.html

Great looking TT. Offer to wire them $100K on Monday. I bet they take it

golfnutintib

thank you

i have couple sets of 993tt hollow spokes, but leaving aside period correctness (over-rated imho), i like the more modern/edgy look of the 996tt wheel on this one

+1 i have no doubt they would

dgcate

Why would anyone do this Carlo? I'm not saying it didn't happen. (I believe it did). But, I've been reading this sentence over and over trying to put together a scenario where someone would be willing to trade a later year car (any marque) for an earlier year car with 30% more miles on it, virtually even? How could that happen? (and if you don't wanna share it on a public forum, I understand that too. This stuff isn't always for public consumption. I was just wonderin', that's all :_)) I can't see how this has anything to do with the valuation of any car.



On another note....my thinking is...at 100k miles, I wonder if people don't begin to figure the cost of a rebuild into the price? I know I do. (rightly or wrongly) How long can these things go? I wonder if 100K mile owners/dealers aren't trying to ride coat tails? You don't wanna have to rebuild an engine after laying down 6 figures a car.

C.J. Ichiban

I'm going to start buying them up and making GT2 type conversions out of them. 400hp just feels so pedestrian these days lol

TT Surgeon

^^^yesss!

carguy19

I work in the auto industry for over 20 years. It was one of my contacts that just happened to need a blue car for someone that had a white one. I have been putting the feelers out for over a year for a deal on a white car. Not that my blue car had any issues, I just prefer white.

There is no value difference for the year between 96-97, just the difference in miles and color pretty much. It happened that I had what the guy wanted and he had what I wanted. So it didn't take much to make us both happy.

Right place at the right time I guess.

LexVan

Not sure exactly what you are saying, but the 97's usually command a premium. Can easily be $5,000 on a like-like car. Mainly because of the much lower production numbers, the debateable 1st gear thing-a-ma-gig, and the programable ECU.

ronnie993tt

According to the September 2015 Excellence turbo value review there is no difference in price between '96 and '97 993 Turbo's. The last 2 months '96 production apparently had all of the '97 upgrades except for the ECU.

carguy19

+1

haggerty and other valuation sites don't dictate market prices. The market does.

if you have a 30K mile 96 or 97 in the same color and condition, they are worth essentially the same thing.

We are all programmed to think the newer car would demand more. I certainly am, but in owning a handful of these, you treat the model of car as the valuation, not the year. Just like on a 1986-1988 Porsche 959.

Would you think an 86 is worth more then an 88 model? They are the same. Much bigger numbers, but the same.

ronnie993tt

Correct. They measure them. I thought the G50 '80's 911's were worth more than the 915's?

Parnelli

Lexvan is correct. 97's will trade for more than a similar '96's.

1297 TT's were made for the US market in '96. Only 612 in '97

And the '97 will always be known as "the last year of the air-cooled turbo"

ronnie993tt

The data does not support this. Year has no impact on 993tt values.

carguy19

Everyone has their own opinion and list of criteria that they go by.

I am basing my statements off of what the recent sales are

1- on ebay.
2- at auction (I go to 4 auctions a month for work and have seen both years sell)
3- what I have actually bought cars for personally.
4- my 21 years owning a used car dealership, managing exotic car stores, and being around these cars my entire career.

Like I stated. A car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. MOST people in the US, treat and value a 993 turbo as the same animal unless it's an S model.

I am not trying to argue or insult anyone, just stating my experience and giving as much factual information as possible.

The only reason I paid more for my current personal car that I own (a 1997) is because it had almost 10,000 less miles and the car is white, which to me is a more rare and desirable color then my 1996 Midnight blue car.

If my Blue car happened to be a 1997 with the same miles, my opinion is that it would have been worth the same money (except for the color because that has value to me that someone may not feel the same way about that I do.)

golfnutintib

this little off-track argument is silly imho

these are 20 year old cars

conditions will never be the same between two 993TT cars such that one model year is the only delta between the two cars in question

color, miles, condition, history, ownership etc etc etc

and of course, most importantly, who happens to be buying at the time and his/her willingness to pay up to own the car