JCPerformance

Good points--thanks. Now I just have to find one...

Knight

Only the C4S has the brakes. Think of the 4S as Turbo without the Turbos. And the 2S as basically the C2 with wider rear.

AC/911's

I am thinking of selling a 96tt that has been modded for the track, 75k miles, Never wrecked (good Carfax), It is tagged & driven on street, 2wd, Suspension, Exhaust, No a/c, Lightened up Interior, Etc, Trying to figure out asking Price.
Car is in Great Cond.
Will post on Pelican when I decide.

TT Surgeon

As much as I love 993 turbos, they've just become too valuable track anymore, IMO.

Robert993TT

I tracked my 993 turbo every year I owned it except this last year. This year I used is as a DD for a change. It´s just a car at the end of the day.

People takes far more exclusive cars on track than a 993 turbo. Whats the point of owning one if you can´t use it? On the street you can never fully expire the performance of a 993 turbo without putting yourself and others in danger.

With that said. The 993 turbo is a compromise on track. Not a bad one, considering what a great road car it is. For your information I consider a GT3 a compromise as well on track even if its a far better drive with is high revving NA engine. It´s to heavy at the end of the day. A wannabe track car unmodified.

Mark993TT

I have been doing some track days, with a BMW E36, and although I have seen much more expensive cars on track, I have not seen that many cars that are more exclusive than the 993 turbo. Have not seen one 993 turbo on track for the last 3 years on Zandvoort, Assen, Zolder or Spa Francorchamps. Did see however a lot of Cayman GT4s, 991 GT3, GT3 Cup and 991 GT3 RSs. Also encountered one veyron. The fact that that owner took his car to the track doesn't make it a good track car. ;-)

PNW911

Was originally going to track my 993tt when I bot it Feb 2010, but when springtime arrived, I decided it was too much of a collectible classic. Instead, bot a fully track prepped 6 GT-3 to spare the turbo which was a great decision. Recently posted my 993 turbo for sale here and PCA site, and bot a 996tt- tons of car for 1/4 the cost. It and GT-3 have the bulletproof Mezger engine and are likely the next undervalued classics- IMHO...

Vince964T

It's not that hard to catch up the GT2/3s even some 991s in an old air cooled turbo
With the right mods...

Kein_Ersatz

^^^ This ^^^

There will always be an arms race, every year a new toy from Stuttgart will out perform (net net) what came before. So if winning the HPDE (fastest) run group is your idea of fun, then go modern.

If driver engagement and testing your metal and not the Zuffenhausen nannies, then a 993 TT (last of the air cooled) or an RS Tribute may tick those boxes just fine. But you will not win the HPDE run group in it at most HPDE events. But you will get a lot of appreciation from other drivers seeing a 993 on track.

You can have a lot of fun running among the 911s, 944s, 964s, na996s, na997s, Boxsters, Caymans, SPBs, and a lot of BMWs, Miatas, and Mustangs. Not so much with the '6, '7, & '1s TTs / track prep'd, Corvettes, GT-Rs or newer M BMWs.

OverBoosted28

Couldn't agree more. Just gets kinda lonely when you're the only 993 (let alone the only 993TT) out there. Not winning anything, but a smile on my face, and sometimes the look of astonishment on others, when you can run circles around them.

nrubenstein

Honestly, get an M3. E9x M3s are getting down into the low 20s for track car suitable donors, have 400hp, and you can relatively easily walk away from that AND find another one. And I bet it'll be faster on track than a 993TT. Or get an E46 M3 for $10k. Or build a SpecE46.

Spending $100k +/- on what is essentially a vintage track car is nuts. One of the key elements of a good track car is disposability. Even if the cost doesn't matter, the difficulty of finding a replacement does.

BrandonH

The vast majority of folks disagree but as a now-greybeard veteran of the the tracked-streetcar->prepped track car-> logbook racecar/trackcar -> PCA/SCCA racecar continuum, I've come to believe that the logical conclusion to the question is to suck it up and buy a cup car. ultimately the cheapest way to reliability, progress benchmarks, resale value, performance. 996 cup cars are the screaming track car value of all time.
The tt is a good car to drive to the track, however.

Vince964T

I have a similar backgound, from street to prepped to 996CUP and back to street/prepped. I definitly agree with you, cheapest way to reliability, progress, benchmark, performance resale. But it's definitly not cheap ! And the 996Cups when they reach a certain mileage are not all that realiable witout a signidicant maintenance budget. And even then...

A street / prepped car is definitly cheaper to run (unless the mods bug has bitten you) but performance/progress/benchmark are out of the window.

To all those who want/could but hesitate to buy a CUP, go ahead and do it, at least for a few years. It's Another World.

Vince964T

Yes sometimes it's lonely in an old turbo (mine is a 964T with TT Engine btw) but you just have to make friend with the GT3s or in your case drive slower. I suspect your car is a bit faster than mine !

OverBoosted28

Yep, not even close to the fastest, but it's what I have and what I run. Smiles for miles, 2.25 to be exact :-)