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ScottMellor 06-05-2014 09:07 PM

Yes it can be done without dropping the engine.
I saw it with my own eyes, since I was handing him wrenches.

WingChun 06-07-2014 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by ScottMellor (Post 11420091)
$3500 for labor?
I was the dude Steve was talking about who trashed a VC on the dyno a few years ago.
My tech swapped it out in about an hour and a half.

Presumably then he removed the VC without first pulling the front diff and torque tube?

owen meany 06-07-2014 03:20 PM

Yes, lot's in labor. The VC is inside the transmission, hence a bunch of time opening up the trans. I was originally thinking the front diff. was the problem, not so.
I will say that this guy charges $150 an hour! I'm thinking that's a lot. My last shop was $130 which I disliked. Anyone else want to report there mechanics hourly rate?
Thanks.

AiRick 06-07-2014 04:38 PM

$120 over here in Reno good shop ! Rennsport (775) 331-4366 factory trained (Matt) many years ago so very familiar with our 993TT's also Steve he's $110 per hour , he has done a lot of work for me.

ca993twin 06-07-2014 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by owen meany (Post 11424421)
Yes, lot's in labor. The VC is inside the transmission, hence a bunch of time opening up the trans.

I'm not sure that's true... I think the viscous coupler is a separate unit that's attached to the nose of the transmission. The transmission doesn't have to be opened. Pretty sure about this.

Pry 06-07-2014 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by ca993twin (Post 11424543)
I'm not sure that's true... I think the viscous coupler is a separate unit that's attached to the nose of the transmission. The transmission doesn't have to be opened. Pretty sure about this.

The VC is inside the front section of the transmission. You need to open the transmission front cover to replace the VC. Two of the bolts that hold the cover in place are hard to get when the transmission is attached to the car. The cover can't be removed if you don't first remove the front diff and push the torque tube forward.

ScottMellor 06-09-2014 11:54 AM

Ahhhh, I believe we were also fixing a leaking front diff at the time.....

Slate993tt 06-09-2014 02:18 PM

Either way $3500 in labor seems crazy high to me. Scott's wrench is mine as well and the guy sure knows his stuff. I think you are in NorCal so we are probably too far for you to use him. His name is Mike Schatz and owns MKS Performance down here in Camarillo. Top notch wrench.

ca993twin 06-09-2014 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Pry (Post 11424712)
The VC is inside the front section of the transmission. You need to open the transmission front cover to replace the VC. Two of the bolts that hold the cover in place are hard to get when the transmission is attached to the car. The cover can't be removed if you don't first remove the front diff and push the torque tube forward.

Thanks for correcting my error and not making too much fun of my mistake! I'm glad to know the actual facts.

AiRick 09-29-2014 11:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWXk...ature=youtu.beWorking on my car… Thought I would check if the AWD system still works…Kind of cool seeing it in action.

MarinS4 10-02-2014 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by owen meany (Post 11393585)
I did a Dyno test on a "AWD" Dyno set up at Thunderhill here in C.A. Two roller table and I had done it a couple of years ago. The difference this time was that they removed the belt that coupled the two rollers together. First pull had both wheels spinning. That was the last time they spun. .

Kevin should know better than that! Even if the car could be run like that the ABS would be going crazy on some cars that have traction control. I feel like it was done out of laziness. They were likely testing a 2wd car before and did not want to go through the trouble to put the belt back. There is no good reason to run a car without the roller connected.

I like the guys at Thunderhill but you gotta remember they work on anything and everything. One of my friends had a shop there and had a few horror stories. They are a bit rough around the edges. It's in the sticks after all.

ferraribuyer 10-03-2014 12:03 AM

so I'm going on the dyno next week. Looks like I should disconnect the front drive shaft. Wont this car still need to go on 4 rollers so the traction control ABS stuff doesn't go crazy? Im glad I read this before going on the awd dyno

Basal Skull 10-03-2014 01:58 AM

^ shouldn't be a problem, ABS is for braking and our cars don't really have traction control -they have ABD 'automatic braking differential' or something like that - looks at wheel speed side to side, kind of like lsd using brakes afaik. A lot of us have disconnected the front drive permanently...


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