993tt vs 964T
12-15-2012, 10:00 AM
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993tt vs 964T
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I sold my 993TT last fall which was a mistake. 31,000 mile, Horizon Blue on Navy...it was a special car. So after finishing my new house and cleaning out the garage of space building materials, the idea of putting my wife's Avant out in the laneway and filling that garage bay with another air cooled car is starting to appeal to me.
I was thinking of a 964T but I am shocked to find out they are getting more expensive than the 993tt! I have only driven one 964 T which was too tired to even consider, but I did like the feel, and styling to the car. Any advice from fellow Rennlisters on the 964T vs. 993TT debate I may not have considered other than they are both great cars..?
I sold my 993TT last fall which was a mistake. 31,000 mile, Horizon Blue on Navy...it was a special car. So after finishing my new house and cleaning out the garage of space building materials, the idea of putting my wife's Avant out in the laneway and filling that garage bay with another air cooled car is starting to appeal to me.
I was thinking of a 964T but I am shocked to find out they are getting more expensive than the 993tt! I have only driven one 964 T which was too tired to even consider, but I did like the feel, and styling to the car. Any advice from fellow Rennlisters on the 964T vs. 993TT debate I may not have considered other than they are both great cars..?
12-15-2012, 01:20 PM
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I don't see any reason to buy a 964T that cost more than a 993TT unless you are a collector.
I also have not heard of any 993TT owners that sold their cars and not regret afterwards.
I also have not heard of any 993TT owners that sold their cars and not regret afterwards.
12-15-2012, 01:45 PM
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Ask yourself... bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when a 993tt lines up next to you...
Probably regret not buying a 993tt all over again.
just food for thought.
Probably regret not buying a 993tt all over again.
just food for thought.
12-15-2012, 07:19 PM
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A 3.6 is on par with a 993 turbo s as far as collectibility and price go.
Maybe check out a 3.3 964 turbo or a collectable 930s (505), those are likely to jump in price in the future.
Maybe check out a 3.3 964 turbo or a collectable 930s (505), those are likely to jump in price in the future.
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12-15-2012, 10:12 PM
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With the 964, you have the mono turbo effect and a slightly more classic shape - I drove a 964 3.3, 964 3.6 and a TT. And I can say I would have been happy with either given my usage.
I was searching for a 964 3.6 (which are pretty hard to come by at a reasonable price) when I stumbled upon my Ruf TT. If looking again (speaking of stock cars), I would buy a 964 3.6 over a TT. But I would buy a TT over a 964 3.3. All boils down to your preference as Quadcammer pointed out - be it from a driving, shape or collectible standpoint.
I was searching for a 964 3.6 (which are pretty hard to come by at a reasonable price) when I stumbled upon my Ruf TT. If looking again (speaking of stock cars), I would buy a 964 3.6 over a TT. But I would buy a TT over a 964 3.3. All boils down to your preference as Quadcammer pointed out - be it from a driving, shape or collectible standpoint.
12-16-2012, 12:21 PM
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A couple of comments;
I must say that even though I own a 993, I really really like the 964 turbo. I can understand why they cost as much as they do. If I was to pursue this in the future, it would have to be in addition to the 993, not as a substitute.
However, with the prices of the 3.6 turbos going up, the 3.3 seems like a better alternative, maybe even one with a bit higher mileage. I also agree with those who think that the 3.6 should not be modified. It's just an icon in itself and it would not make sense to cut into it. The 3.3 however could be improved upon. But one is still limited by the CIS. So the way I see it is either do some mild tweaks up to around 400hp and stay with the CIS. Or go wild with EFI and above 400ish. Or try to find a used 993 turbo engine, do a few tweaks on that and you have a wonderfully reliable 450 hp 964 turbo 
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I must say that even though I own a 993, I really really like the 964 turbo. I can understand why they cost as much as they do. If I was to pursue this in the future, it would have to be in addition to the 993, not as a substitute.
However, with the prices of the 3.6 turbos going up, the 3.3 seems like a better alternative, maybe even one with a bit higher mileage. I also agree with those who think that the 3.6 should not be modified. It's just an icon in itself and it would not make sense to cut into it. The 3.3 however could be improved upon
. But one is still limited by the CIS. So the way I see it is either do some mild tweaks up to around 400hp and stay with the CIS. Or go wild with EFI and above 400ish. Or try to find a used 993 turbo engine, do a few tweaks on that and you have a wonderfully reliable 450 hp 964 turbo .
12-16-2012, 01:40 PM
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10 years ago I was shopping for my childhood dream car ('79 930 Turbo) body style and narrowed it down to 964 Turbo.
So I started looking for one but soon it came down to 3.3T vs 3.6T. I was told by the board here to go for a 3.3 rather than paying a premium (47 vs 60) for a 3.6 and that's exactly what I did
There was a beautiful one owner Ferrari yellow 3.6T with 16,000 miles that I was going to buy for $60,000 but went for my current 3.3T
Point is,buy what you would be happy with.
So I started looking for one but soon it came down to 3.3T vs 3.6T. I was told by the board here to go for a 3.3 rather than paying a premium (47 vs 60) for a 3.6 and that's exactly what I did
There was a beautiful one owner Ferrari yellow 3.6T with 16,000 miles that I was going to buy for $60,000 but went for my current 3.3T
Point is,buy what you would be happy with.
12-19-2012, 07:48 AM
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looking at your current stable, you're making a choice for a car you'll drive 1-2000mi/yr
go collector and get the 964T... they ain't making any more of them! They (and a real 505) will always be the quintessential Porsche- Turbo
go collector and get the 964T... they ain't making any more of them! They (and a real 505) will always be the quintessential Porsche- Turbo
12-19-2012, 12:35 PM
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The really good news about all of this is how stable prices have become for these cars. Depreciation is usually the biggest cost of overall ownership, and in those rare cases when prices stabilize or even better, rise at least with inflation, it becomes possible to own a car 'for free.' Both 964t and 993tt appear to have achieved that status which is extraordinarily uncommon for a recently built car. Doesn't happen with the Italian cars. Only recent example off top of head is Ford GT.
Yes $70-80K is a lot of $ and there are other costs of ownership besides depreciation. But if you are convinced you can sell for what you paid, you can think of it as an asset not consumption.
Yes $70-80K is a lot of $ and there are other costs of ownership besides depreciation. But if you are convinced you can sell for what you paid, you can think of it as an asset not consumption.
