why solid bush rear subframe???
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Bill V -
I followed your suspension conversion very closely and it was your experiences that drove me to do the same for my 993TT. It completely transformed the car from a wallowing cruiser to a tight sports car. I'm amazed at how little noise/harshness is added to the car with the fully solid suspension!
Best modification for this car; hands down!
I followed your suspension conversion very closely and it was your experiences that drove me to do the same for my 993TT. It completely transformed the car from a wallowing cruiser to a tight sports car. I'm amazed at how little noise/harshness is added to the car with the fully solid suspension!
Best modification for this car; hands down!
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if so I did all RS rear arms w/ ERP solid non tilt subframe mounts and Tarrett rear toe links
In front I used Elephant Racing sport rubber A-arm bushes, I would have used the Elephant bushes in back too but also wanted all new ball joints. The RSR's experienced ball joint failure regularly back in the day.
here is the rear parts list
993.331.045.80 Kinematic Control Arm x2 RS, top rear 196.67 393.34
900.067.323.09 M12x1.5x90 hex head bolt x2 K/T inner 5.82 11.64
993.331.219.01 eccentric washer x2 K/T inner 17.05 34.10
999.507.384.09 M12x1.5 nut x2 K/T inner 2.53 5.06
999.084.449.09 VM12x1.5 nut x2 K/T outer 0.97 1.94
993.331.041.81 RS A arm /L 508.10 508.10
993.331.042.81 RS A arm /R 508.10 508.10
900.378.052.09 M12x1.5x80 hex head bolt x2 a/a trailing 5.01 10.02
999.084.445.09 VM12x1.5 nut x2 a/a trailing 0.83 1.66
900.378.051.09 M14x1.5x100 bolt x2 a/a leading 5.01 10.02
900.380.012.09 VM14x1.5 nut x2 a/a leading 1.99 3.98
900.380.009.09 VM12x1.5 nut x2 a/a ball joint nut 1.77 3.54
993.331.047.03 Camber control arm 96- x2 not RS specific, top forward 208.7 417.40
993.331.217.80 Eccentric screw x2 c/l, top forward inner 37.23 74.46
993.331.219.80 Eccentric washer x2 c/l, top forward inner 19.12 38.24
999.084.445.09 VM12x1.5 nut x2 c/l, top forward, inner 0.83 1.66
999.084.449.09 VM12x1.5 nut x2 c/l top forward outer 0.97 1.94
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Gents just bumping the thread as I'm in the process of refreshing my rear suspension, as usual unexpected news but of course while you there might as well do it right.
I'm replacing all the rear arms, very likely going with RS A arms and KT arms, as Bill noted in many other posts these haver stiffer bushings. Doing also OEM camber arm + Tarret rear toe link arm.
I did notice the price difference of say the Tarrett solids vs Elephant racing rubber is only ~ $50. Assuming might as well just go solids if I proceed.
http://www.tarett.com/items/993-964-...-xx-detail.htm
http://www.elephantracing.com/suspen...erbushings.htm
How much labor is involved in the changing subframe mounts? Keep in mind I'll be doing the the rear arms as noted above.
I'm replacing all the rear arms, very likely going with RS A arms and KT arms, as Bill noted in many other posts these haver stiffer bushings. Doing also OEM camber arm + Tarret rear toe link arm.
I did notice the price difference of say the Tarrett solids vs Elephant racing rubber is only ~ $50. Assuming might as well just go solids if I proceed.
http://www.tarett.com/items/993-964-...-xx-detail.htm
http://www.elephantracing.com/suspen...erbushings.htm
How much labor is involved in the changing subframe mounts? Keep in mind I'll be doing the the rear arms as noted above.
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Rear subframe mounts are pretty easy. Just have an air chisel to start the lip of the oem mount/bushing. Be careful not to strike/chew up the aluminum carrier. I pulled the bottoms out first so I also had access to push tops out from inside. Go around lip and get it going evenly and it'll loosen up better.
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As Overboost mentioned one of the challenges is simply removing the existing bushings. +1 on the air chisel!
btw, I ended up going with the Elephant Racing Sport Hardness bushings (equivalent to RS). I heard the solids can lead to a dramatic increase in NVH, as well longevity not as good too.
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Rear Subframe Bushings
Yes it can be done and it would be very helpful with some of the rear arms removed too.
As Overboost mentioned one of the challenges is simply removing the existing bushings. +1 on the air chisel!
btw, I ended up going with the Elephant Racing Sport Hardness bushings (equivalent to RS). I heard the solids can lead to a dramatic increase in NVH, as well longevity not as good too.
As Overboost mentioned one of the challenges is simply removing the existing bushings. +1 on the air chisel!
btw, I ended up going with the Elephant Racing Sport Hardness bushings (equivalent to RS). I heard the solids can lead to a dramatic increase in NVH, as well longevity not as good too.
Happy new year! Thanks for your time, in advance!
TJ
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