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Old 09-22-2011, 11:37 AM
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What? You can drive these things in the rain? Now you tell me.
Yes, unless you have the Sonderwunsch "car made out of sugar " option.
Old 09-22-2011, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Y65MPH
That would explain why Alvin sold it and why the next guy is selling it again. Plus I wondered why the pictures of the engine on the engine stand looks different than the one in the car. I would guess they had clearance issues with the original build. Hence the shorter intercooler piping and chopped fan housing with chipped paint on the engine in car pictures. Not to mention the intercooler does not sit straight in the engine bay. Those intercoolers look like two 996TT intercoolers welded together.
I looks like the standard FVD intercooler to me
Old 09-22-2011, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartan
I looks like the standard FVD intercooler to me
I don't think s-car-go would use an FVD product. Plus the welds look like they were done by a high school shop class. Not the kind of work from a company like FVD. They look like two 996tt griffin cores with end tanks welded on.
Old 09-23-2011, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Y65MPH
I don't think s-car-go would use an FVD product. Plus the welds look like they were done by a high school shop class. Not the kind of work from a company like FVD. They look like two 996tt griffin cores with end tanks welded on.
FVD is just a reseller and doesn't fabricate anything. Thats just looks like the standard V flow IC that more than a few companies resell. Might be wrong but it wouldn't shock me if they put that on this car

http://www.fvd.de/us/en/Porsche-0/99...tercooler.html

Here is the same thing from cargraphic

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Old 09-23-2011, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Y65MPH
That would explain why Alvin sold it and why the next guy is selling it again. Plus I wondered why the pictures of the engine on the engine stand looks different than the one in the car. I would guess they had clearance issues with the original build. Hence the shorter intercooler piping and chopped fan housing with chipped paint on the engine in car pictures. Not to mention the intercooler does not sit straight in the engine bay. Those intercoolers look like two 996TT intercoolers welded together.
Well, as I recall from the video of this car in Monterey, the engine was running on one turbo when dyno-ed (and it still reached some absurd figure). One might start putting two and two together and figure there are some reliability or driveability issues. Or maybe not, who knows?

But Alvin has been selling a lot of his toys -- his 3.0cs has moved on (twice) shortly after the build as has this and others, too. Maybe Alvin like the chase and then gets bored ....
Old 09-23-2011, 11:46 AM
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That might explain only 1000 or so miles on it since the buld. Maybe half were verticle on the lift?
Old 09-23-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by inkatouring
But Alvin has been selling a lot of his toys -- his 3.0cs has moved on (twice) shortly after the build as has this and others, too. Maybe Alvin like the chase and then gets bored ....
Alvin is certainly not alone on this front. But how do you spend $300k on a vehicle that will never be worth 1/3 of that?

I understand normal depreciation of a daily driver. My guess is that it simply an expensive hobby, like restoring a car. Very few are worth the resto cost.
Old 09-23-2011, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas993
Alvin is certainly not alone on this front. But how do you spend $300k on a vehicle that will never be worth 1/3 of that?

I understand normal depreciation of a daily driver. My guess is that it simply an expensive hobby, like restoring a car. Very few are worth the resto cost.
I try to avoid adding up all the money spent on Rufus... by me and the previous owner (who did the basic Turbo R conversion). Ignorance is... well... ignorance. On the other hand, Rufus has over 130,000 miles, and runs like a freight train.

At least I didn't have to pay for that nifty Ruf key head. (Thanks again Patrick)
Old 09-23-2011, 09:54 PM
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:31 PM
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The moneys seems in there, these things takes lots of greenbacks (more from a greedy builder) but how about a 4 bar oil pressure at 3500 rpms?,that needle should be pegging past 5 bar.,just an obsevation.
Old 09-25-2011, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Should have painted my engine with fancy colors and call it RUF..value added $50k!
He did...



When I first viewed the eBay listing and saw "1996 Porsche 911 993 TT RUF"

WOW!!!

Then saw "ULTRA CUSTOM 1996 PORSCHE 993 TWIN PLUG TWIN TURBO 3.8 POWERHOUSE RUF UPGRADES"

Huh? Powerhouse Ruf Upgrades...

I guess if we saw this, it might not have the same cachet:
"1996 Porsche 911 993 C4S"
"1996 PORSCHE 993 C4S WITH ULTRA CUSTOM POWERHOUSE TWIN PLUG TWIN TURBO 3.8 AND RUF BODY KIT"

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Old 09-25-2011, 01:58 AM
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Some basic back story on the car, from what I remember, and feel free to correct me. The car came from the Pacific Northwest. Shortly after it Alvin bought it (I think he bought it because he wanted a yellow 4S, and this car was available at the time) a "800 Gajillion HP" turbo engine from a recently wrecked 993 Turbo showed up on Craigslist for somewhere around $30K. So the idea was to mate engine to car. Which was commission to Rob/S Car Go. A quick checkout showed this engine was much, much, much, much, etc. less than the sum of its parts. The project went into outer space at that point.

And I'm sure if you added up all the money spent since the original owner wrote a check for the car, it would easily top the quoted amount.
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he wants more? it's an awesome car but how can he expect to get more for it in this market. I mean no disrespect. I know what its like to soak a small fortune into a car and try and sell it after. If some one knows the guy that bid 101,XXX. let him know I'd let either of my 3.8 Holcome built 993s go for that kind of cash.
Old 09-26-2011, 01:26 PM
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Wow, a $101,000 offer for a 993 C4S with mods
Old 09-26-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by biiig-hp
he wants more? it's an awesome car but how can he expect to get more for it in this market. I mean no disrespect. I know what its like to soak a small fortune into a car and try and sell it after. If some one knows the guy that bid 101,XXX. let him know I'd let either of my 3.8 Holcome built 993s go for that kind of cash.
Probably the current owner paid more and he is trying to recover his monies. Sometimes one has to bite the bullet and a accept a reasonable offer on a modified car. The car looks to be modified correctly but at the price the current owner is looking for, it leaves buyers with many other car options. Next option is to sit on it and wait for a buyer but as some of us know that could take a long time. Hopefully it will sell someday to a current Rennlister and he or she can drive the cobwebs off that bad boy...


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