euro (gray market) twin turbo question
12-19-2002, 01:50 PM
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euro (gray market) twin turbo question
are htere any problems w/buying a euro 993 twin turbo already in the usa and w/normal title?
how is the car different?
any mechanical differences?
thanks
ken
how is the car different?
any mechanical differences?
thanks
ken
12-20-2002, 01:39 AM
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ROW Turbo converted to US DOT spec's would make no sense at all! Why would we spend bucks for a non DOT machine when we have an abundance of domestic DOT product?
If your questions relates to " Ruf" for example please be advised Ruf is US DOT certified and certainly not 'gray market.." The 930 series Porsche circa 1984 would be an example of gray market conversion which was at that point in time a thriving business! Hope that helps! Ruf is serviceable at an Porsche dealer.Obviously some dealers are beer than others! Chad, you have some bay area thoughts about shops thatt would service a Ruf machine?
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If your questions relates to " Ruf" for example please be advised Ruf is US DOT certified and certainly not 'gray market.." The 930 series Porsche circa 1984 would be an example of gray market conversion which was at that point in time a thriving business! Hope that helps! Ruf is serviceable at an Porsche dealer.Obviously some dealers are beer than others! Chad, you have some bay area thoughts about shops thatt would service a Ruf machine?
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12-20-2002, 03:10 AM
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97 993 TT FOR SALE IN AUTOTRADER FOR 53k W/25 K MI
OWNER SAYS IT IS A EURO VERSION IMPORTED IN 98
SAYS IT HAS 40 MORE MORE HP, NO WARTS ON FRONT BUMPER, SPEEDO IN KILOMETERS AND SIDE LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FENDERS.
SOUNDS EURO/GRAY/? TO ME
HAS CLEAN FLORIDA TITLE
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM US CAR?
OWNER SAYS IT IS A EURO VERSION IMPORTED IN 98
SAYS IT HAS 40 MORE MORE HP, NO WARTS ON FRONT BUMPER, SPEEDO IN KILOMETERS AND SIDE LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FENDERS.
SOUNDS EURO/GRAY/? TO ME
HAS CLEAN FLORIDA TITLE
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM US CAR?
12-20-2002, 09:23 AM
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My friend used to have a RoW TT and I thought that the hp was 425 vs 400 for the US.
Besides the power, I think the other difference besides what you described include suspension, rear fog lights, and maybe gearbox.
Besides the power, I think the other difference besides what you described include suspension, rear fog lights, and maybe gearbox.
12-22-2002, 02:07 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by dr kenneth e garchow:
<strong>97 993 TT FOR SALE IN AUTOTRADER FOR 53k W/25 K MI
OWNER SAYS IT IS A EURO VERSION IMPORTED IN 98
SAYS IT HAS 40 MORE MORE HP, NO WARTS ON FRONT BUMPER, SPEEDO IN KILOMETERS AND SIDE LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FENDERS.
SOUNDS EURO/GRAY/? TO ME
HAS CLEAN FLORIDA TITLE
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM US CAR?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've been looking into this importing business and something sounds fishy to me.
Euro spec turbo had 408bhp standard, but there were options from the factory for 430 and 450hp.
No warts on front bumper? You mean the little black bumperettes? As i understand it from NHTSA if the car is imported through the normal channels it will have had to have the bumperettes installed.
Also, it would have had to have a mph speedo put in (which also has km/h in smaller writing, whereas the km/h speedo has no mph markings).
Oh, and the side markers on the front wings, just in front of the door shutline, are actually side repeaters for the indicators (flashers).
Check also that the 2nd dial in from the left (with oil temp and oil pressure) has been replaced. ROW would have (O) and (!), whereas US versions have something like (Brake) and (Park).
If the above changes haven't been done then it's possible there's no EPA certificate either (this has to be done before customs release the car). This means that you may have trouble registering the car in a different state.
I'd be careful with this...
Hope this helps.
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<strong>97 993 TT FOR SALE IN AUTOTRADER FOR 53k W/25 K MI
OWNER SAYS IT IS A EURO VERSION IMPORTED IN 98
SAYS IT HAS 40 MORE MORE HP, NO WARTS ON FRONT BUMPER, SPEEDO IN KILOMETERS AND SIDE LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FENDERS.
SOUNDS EURO/GRAY/? TO ME
HAS CLEAN FLORIDA TITLE
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM US CAR?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've been looking into this importing business and something sounds fishy to me.
Euro spec turbo had 408bhp standard, but there were options from the factory for 430 and 450hp.
No warts on front bumper? You mean the little black bumperettes? As i understand it from NHTSA if the car is imported through the normal channels it will have had to have the bumperettes installed.
Also, it would have had to have a mph speedo put in (which also has km/h in smaller writing, whereas the km/h speedo has no mph markings).
Oh, and the side markers on the front wings, just in front of the door shutline, are actually side repeaters for the indicators (flashers).
Check also that the 2nd dial in from the left (with oil temp and oil pressure) has been replaced. ROW would have (O) and (!), whereas US versions have something like (Brake) and (Park).
If the above changes haven't been done then it's possible there's no EPA certificate either (this has to be done before customs release the car). This means that you may have trouble registering the car in a different state.
I'd be careful with this...
Hope this helps.
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12-23-2002, 07:55 PM
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Kenneth,
I wud encourage you to avoid the Euros - Altho some might disagree, my experience is that these cars are consistently misrepresented. The milage is usually not accurate and the cars are run to death over there. Even if you believe the miles, I think they are put on in much harsher conditions. Avoid the great deal - when you are all done, you will have the car, not the deal. Just my two cents.
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I wud encourage you to avoid the Euros - Altho some might disagree, my experience is that these cars are consistently misrepresented. The milage is usually not accurate and the cars are run to death over there. Even if you believe the miles, I think they are put on in much harsher conditions. Avoid the great deal - when you are all done, you will have the car, not the deal. Just my two cents.
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12-25-2002, 12:03 AM
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ok, euro turbo sold.
what i want is a good solid car(wreck ok, euro ok) to do a 2wd, light weight project on.
remove the front drive, a/c, a/c, heavy seats, ....
dont want to start w/to nice a car since my work will probably hurt its vaue.
thanks for input
what i want is a good solid car(wreck ok, euro ok) to do a 2wd, light weight project on.
remove the front drive, a/c, a/c, heavy seats, ....
dont want to start w/to nice a car since my work will probably hurt its vaue.
thanks for input