ScottMellor

I recently noticed a bad flat spot in my engine. If I put her in 3rd gear at 3000 rpm and then floor the gas, as the revs build there is a big flat spot as it goes through about 4800 rpm and then clears back out above 5400. Its very noticeable and the car actually shakes a bit. And it occasionally farts loudly.
The CEL is not flashing.
The reason I noticed it was because I was goofing around after I put on the bypasses to see how much sooner I was getting boost.
I ran two tanks of gas mixed with techron through it to no avail.
I always mix 4 or 5 gallons of 100 or 103 octane with each fill up.
If I run the car normally to redline through all of the gears, it does not happen. It almost feels as if the turbo's are stalling out or blowing off or something.
The ECU is FVD as are the so-called hybrid turbos.
The car has an Andial intercooler and an S oil cooler as well. Basically the only changes are the cat bypasses.
Any ideas?

ZCAT3

A farting car would certainly concern me - particluarly if I was following close behind -

ScottMellor

I THINK it's the car.
Might be me.

djimenez993tt

Scott, Have you thought about something as simple as the bypass valves? Its a possibility.

TOM91722

I just went through this problem with my 01 turbo. It did it for a while and finally threw a CEL. It was a misfire cylinder #1 replaced the coil pack and that fixed the problem hope this helps.

ScottMellor

Thanks for the input guys. I hope to have it checked out when I get back from Japan.
I've been up for 30 hours so I'm wacked.

DV 993tt

Scott
Did you check out this issue? What was the problem?

ScottMellor

You know what? It pretty much just healed itself.
After running two tanks of gas mixed with some techron, it was still doing it. I quit going to McVally oil for my 100 octane and only go to the 76 station. Eventually, it just quit doing it on it's own, so I'm guessing bad gas, even though it hung on for about a month of two tanks of gas per week.
For good measure, after it cleared up, I disconnected my battery for 15 minutes to let the FVD ECU unlearn any bad gas behaviour.
Not a very satisfying solution, as I never really nailed it down.

viperbob

Guess with the bad gas, the knock sensor was cutting down the timing and boost, and then when it stopped it readjusted at the higher RPMs. I noticed some of the 996TT guys have had some of these issues after modified ECUs from various manufacturers, turbos, etc. From what I could tell most seemed to throw more money at it until it was better. Glad yours cleared up without any undue expense or damage.....

ZCAT3

A self-healing car - what could be better than that?

ScottMellor

The only problem with the bad gas theory is why did it take a month to clear up?
I'm still considering getting it on a dyno so I know where I'm at. This weekend at Buttonwillow, I seemed to be able to hang around in the vicinity of Ed Kramers 996TT that he said was putting out around 500 horse so maybe it's all okey dokey. (Not very scientific though huh.
I mean I don't know how hard he was trying and what not.)

Peter S 993tt

You could have had some crap foul an injector and when you went with pump gas, the required solvents eventually cleaned it out (combine bad gas and Techron?).

SundayDriver

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by ScottMellor:
<strong>The only problem with the bad gas theory is why did it take a month to clear up?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">What could have happened is that you were running on low octance fuel for all that time. I assume that the two stations are generally close. The independent could well be buying 76 100 octane, thus you might have been using the same batch even though it came from 2 stations. A blending or labeling problem could have gotten the station's tanks filled with 91 or worse.

ScottMellor

Mark, McValley in Oxnard sells 103 Octane from some company in whose name escapes me. BUT their 103 tank was down for about three months. It could have turned to onion water by the time they got it fixed. I quit using McValley immediately upon noticing the problem.
It's almost like the catastrophic shaking, car dying, flashing check engine light issue. It just healed itself.

viperbob

Wow Scott. You might have the immaculate Porsche...