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Old 04-14-2017, 03:20 PM
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I'm also in Ohio, put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ all-seasons on my C4

I went wider on the front, 225/45-17F. standard on the rear 255/40-17R.

Certainly not track tires, but I like 'em fine.
Old 04-14-2017, 06:19 PM
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Grassroots Motorsports does a lot of tire testing that is clear and not engaged/lobbied by manufacturers or their own agendas.
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I'm running the A/S 3+ as well and like them quite a bit. They feel like a summer tire from a couple generations back. They seem like they have about as much grip as the S-02 I ran in the early 2000s. They can't keep up with a modern summer tire, but they are no slouch and you can have a lot of fun on them. The nice thing about having a little less grip is you can explore chassis balance at lower speeds.

I have driven them in ice and snow, in slush, in below freezing dry roads and on hot roads in the summer. They've done great in all conditions. They have a surprising amount of grip on snow and ice but I've only used them around town at speeds under 40mph in those conditions.

On sub-freezing dry roads they feel like they have full grip, basically feel the same from 0 degrees up to 90 if the road is dry. Wet traction is just a smidge off of dry, lots of grip.

Not a track tire, not an ultimate grip tire, but a very fun tire for anyone who drives hard in a variety of conditions and wants the tire to last longer than a year or two.
Old 04-16-2017, 08:22 PM
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For those of you who do not like Tire Rack reviews, here is a more in depth review of the Conti Sport.

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...act-Sport.aspx
Old 04-16-2017, 09:18 PM
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My 2 cents, on Michelins for a DD:

If all three sets are available in the sizes you want, then I would get the cheapest ones.
If money is not important, then I would get the lightest ones.
And If you don't care about money or weight, then the most recent ones, which means:

1-PS4s
2-PSS
3-PS2s

But, if I still lived in the USA, I would save even more money and get Continentals DW (if still available) over all of them (same weight/thread design almost identical/and same feel as the PS2s).
I had to replace a brand new set of DW with PS2s upon moving to France (flat spotting during shipping in container due to them being under inflated by my dumb ***). I cannot believe how close the DW were to the PS2. At the time, I could not get the Continentals DW, nor the Super Sports in Europe, and the PS4 was not out yet, so I had to buy PS2s.
Old 04-16-2017, 09:27 PM
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See prior post above - I chose the same - a much improved Conti clearly chasing/aping the outgoing Michelin SS at a great price. I just got a set, net of VISA card rebate, at under $650 in 235/265. They have addressed the soft sidewalls in the DW (which were very fine as a comfortable performance tire).

I will be mounting them up soon, based on the early reviews, expect them to me very similar to the PSS (excellent).

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Old 04-16-2017, 09:54 PM
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I have played with all kinds of tires but none seem to be as great all around as the PS2. The best balance of noise, ride quality and grip. My car never sees rain so no need for AS.

On the track I prefer the NT01's.
Old 04-17-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainGSR
1-PS4s
2-PSS
3-PS2s
A great list of tires right there! spot on

I have always used PS2's on my cars, they perform great in wet conditions. I even used them in the snow a couple times (not great, but I made it without incident). Looking forward to trying out the PS4 S
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Based on what I'm reading about the new Continental ExtremeContact, I wonder where it should slot. Seems like a tie with #2 for PSS but its cheaper and some reviewers make it sound like it may have some advantages in terms of smoothness and its also a couple pounds lighter in our sizes. So maybe it should be in #2 with PSS bumped down to #3.
Old 04-17-2017, 08:47 PM
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... and we know the PSS is being replaced, so you may not be able to get a new set of rear tires in a few years... who knows.
Old 04-17-2017, 09:08 PM
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Good point, that could be a tie-breaker in favor of the Continental. Also I would guess that the Continental, being a newer tire, has newer technology as well. Doesn't hurt to buy the latest to market.

Looking forward to hearing more about the PS4S once it comes in our sizes.
Old 04-18-2017, 05:27 PM
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I never had great tread wear on the continental tires. They rode well though.

I expect the tire rack to start slashing prices on the PSS as overlapping sizes become available in the PS4S. Maybe a good time to score a set for my daily driver.
Old 04-18-2017, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by P-daddy
Agreed. I've had several sets of S-O4s now and have been very happy.
Love the S-04s! Great all around tire
Old 04-19-2017, 03:39 PM
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Thank you all for the replies, it'll assist with my decision making process in the near future!
Old 04-23-2017, 03:41 PM
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I don't know why PS2's get mentioned in these conversations anymore. They must be what, 15 year old tech? When the PSS came out they reviewed favorably in every area, and they're not exactly new tech either at this point.

If sizing is a limitation then look at other brands (Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, etc.)


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