jes999

[quote]Originally posted by stinky:
<strong>If a car is covered by the warranty, but exhibits no problems, should one take advantage of the recall and have a new harness installed?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Document says:
".....,the engine wiring harness of affected vehicles must be inspected and checked. Depending on the results of these checks, the wring harness may then need to be replaced."

I don't think it is YOUR choice.

Also, it is not a "warranty". It is a "voluntary customer service campaign action."

Todd P

I just called my dealer and my 95 is not covered by this voluntary recall. Build date is 3/94. Timothy sounds like we're in the same boat.

E. J. - 993 Alumni

Okay Guys, I got Dr. Ken's fax and have uploaded it to my site. You can reach it from the index page at the link in my signature. You can also go directly to the downloads page and save the report - it's a one page .pdf file.

Thanx again to Dr. Ken for bringing this to all of our attention.

E. J.

Sure hate to be a service manager in the near future with all of these rennlist educated consumers banging on my door with proof positive data.

Kevin Reilly

[quote]Originally posted by jes999:
<strong>
Document says:
".....,the engine wiring harness of affected vehicles must be inspected and checked. Depending on the results of these checks, the wring harness may then need to be replaced."

I don't think it is YOUR choice.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think the question was whether you should take your car to a dealer to have the work done (you do have a choice to take the car to the dealer
) if your car has no bad symptoms. I guess that would depend partially on your opinion of the dealer's service department ....ie will they screw something up doing this. Also, depends on whether there is a time limit on this service offering. You could wait until (if) symptoms arise, and deal with it then. But if there is a deadline then you might consider taking advantage of the offer.

Bins

Thanks to those in the US who have been involved/persisted in this matter.

Im considering writing a letter to Porsche GB, to at least find out the situation in the UK.
Doc, Would you mind if I were to print the W301 and send it with the letter.

jes999

[quote]Originally posted by Kevin Reilly:
<strong>

I think the question was whether you should take your car to a dealer to have the work done (you do have a choice to take the car to the dealer
) if your car has no bad symptoms. I guess that would depend partially on your opinion of the dealer's service department ....ie will they screw something up doing this. Also, depends on whether there is a time limit on this service offering. You could wait until (if) symptoms arise, and deal with it then. But if there is a deadline then you might consider taking advantage of the offer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If your car is one of the affected VIN #s, I would definitely take it in to get looked at even if you don't currently have any problems. Cracked insulation could potentially lead to a fire in a "worst case scenario."

Kevin Reilly

[quote]Originally posted by jes999:
<strong>

If your car is one of the affected VIN #s, I would definitely take it in to get looked at even if you don't currently have any problems. Cracked insulation could potentially lead to a fire in a "worst case scenario."</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree, but if the car had "cracked insulation" I would say it currently has a problem!

Anyway, great result for those with affected cars!

Tim Ashfield

Fantastic work by everyone involved - a great result! We shall now see if this affects other markets such as the UK.

Caveman

Good job in the US.

Another issue that I didn't know I had! I'll be checking this out on my car (95 C4). What should I be looking for as I've never heard about this problem before?

I'll call Porsche UK tomorrow if I get time and find out what they say. I'll drop a note once I've spoken with them.

Thanks again.

Cheers,

David

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JPS

Just spoke with a dealer here in the bay area. He is aware of the problem and the recall, and was really surprised I was already calling.

Apparently Porsche has not released the VINs to him, at least, so he can't say FOR SURE that mine is affected, for example, but he can say that I'm in the preliminary range.

According to him, the process is this:
Wait until specific VINs available
Check if VIN affected
Check harness availability
If available, schedule time to come in (one day). They will inspect harness, if not already replaced, will replace it. Not sure what happens if already replaced (I'm not original owner, and don't have records here in front of me).
He is not willing to do inspection yet, as Porsche won't clear him for even that much labor to be paid until specific VINs are available.

I asked him about mileage, when should happen, etc. His personal view is it might be LOOSELY tied to ambient climate, e.g. Arizona might have more than Seattle, since it is the heat that cracks the harness casing. Doesn't really seem to have a correlation to mileage, in his off the cuff opinion.

He did seem happy that the recall letter I had seen wasn't a doom & gloom, "Bring it or it will burn up" sort of letter...says it makes his life easier.

His theory on why they haven't released specific VIN clearance yet is to ensure they have enough harnesses on hand.

Finally, process is as follows...partially lower engine, remove some stuff, replace harness, put it all back together...supposed to be an outpatient procedure...in in the morning, out in the evening.

Hope that helps.

TomF

Thanks to all that worked so hard to make this happen! I am on my way over to my dealer tomorrow to have a little chat. I'll post a FUP when I know anything.

Thanks again, Doc, Sachin and especially DJ, who has been the grand champion of this cause.

Best regards,
Tom F.

Bins

[quote]Originally posted by Caveman:
<strong>
What should I be looking for as I've never heard about this problem before?
</strong><hr></blockquote>


Dave, check out EJs site and search on previous threads.
It is not easy to find on the car unless you are a DIYer. I think it can be found by removing the alternator.
I havent found out if my car is effected.
It could be a climate related issue.

Anyway, I have sent a letter to Porsche GB. I will inform if I get a response.

Personally I think there will be a better response from Porsche GB if more people make enquires on this matter.

FlyYellow

So an interesting response. I called the 1800-porsche number and spoke to Jordan Hale. She informed me that W301 is NOT a porsche recall. It has not yet been authorized and said that the rennlist information was wrong on this one. Her advice was contact your dealer and see if it needs to be replaced.

FYI....

Boris

DonW-Cape Cod

See my post on Vin numbers that may be involved in this recall. THe TSB W301 states that PCNA will contact owners.

I did post the vin numbers in a different post.

JPS

Boris,
I spoke to a dealer. He is treating as a recall, but not until final VIN release from Porsche.