Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

OT: Car Comparison

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:32 PM
  #1  
Sputnik's Avatar
Sputnik
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Default OT: Car Comparison

While commuting to work few days ago I passed Ferrari 360 Modena on Hwy 101...what a beautiful car . Being impressed by its appearance I've dived into Internet to gain some info on it. As result of my "research" this chart has been built:
.............................. Ferrari 360............................Porsche 911GT2 (from porsche.com and ferrari.com)

Maximum speed..........183 mph.................................196 mph
0-62 mph.....................4.5 s.......................................4.1 secs
Maximum power...........400 bhp at 8,500 rpm............483 bhp at 5,700
Maximum torque..........373 Nm at 4,750 rpm..............620 Nm at 3,500-4,500 rpm
Weight.........................1,290 kg..................................1,420 kg
If to compare the numbers at this chart 911GT2 looks a bit faster. Aside from those numbers it is probably worth to mention that GT2 uses less gas. It has smaller engine. It is not as "showy" as F360. It doesn't require as much maintenance work as ferrari does. And mantainance work doesn't cost 7000 dollars. The car itself costs much less than Modena. It even could be used as a daily driver! Four seats....easy to drive...bla-bla-bla...

Last edited by Sputnik; Oct 24, 2003 at 07:40 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:40 PM
  #2  
ca993twin's Avatar
ca993twin
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,498
Likes: 27
From: North Dakota
Default

I agree with all your data, but the GT2 is missing two Ferrari features:
1). incredible V8 exhaust note... the best I've ever heard
2). one of the most sensuous body styles ever done (well except perhaps the 250GTO)

Porsches seem to be about as exotic a car that you could REALLY use as an everyday driver. I'd love a Ferrari, but I know I can't afford the upkeep.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:46 PM
  #3  
Sputnik's Avatar
Sputnik
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Default

I think the main difference between them (aside from theirs technical features) is that Ferrari looks and being perceived by public as a car that costs A $$$LOT$$$..while 911 GT2 doesn't.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:57 PM
  #4  
User 4621's Avatar
User 4621
Race Director
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 13,054
Likes: 614
Default Re: OT: Car Comparison

Originally posted by Sputnik
The car itself costs much less than Modena.
Ferrari 360 Modena, $146K
Porsche Carrera GT2, $192K
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:03 PM
  #5  
Greg Fishman's Avatar
Greg Fishman
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,254
Likes: 35
From: Austin TX
Default

A GT2 doesn't have a back seat...

And who gives a crap about gas mileage in an almost $200K sports car. That is probably the last thing that would matter.

Besides that comparing the "base" Ferrari to the GT2 is not fair. You need to compare the 360 Stradale to the GT2.

Last comment, I would say it is pretty tough to declare a winner based on a few statistics. These cars are much more than a collection of numbers. I have not been on the track in a 360 but have in a GT2 and it is an awesome vehicle, but I am sure the 360 stradale is just as impressive.

http://www.sleepy-fish.com/other_vid...0_Stradale.wmv
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:06 PM
  #6  
PK's Avatar
PK
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, CA
Default Re: OT: Car Comparison

Originally posted by Sputnik
....easy to drive...bla-bla-bla...
Are you sure about that???

Post the same comment on ferrarichat.com and you'll be surprised to see a much different reply.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:06 PM
  #7  
Greg Fishman's Avatar
Greg Fishman
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,254
Likes: 35
From: Austin TX
Default Re: Re: OT: Car Comparison

Originally posted by PeterS
Ferrari 360 Modena, $146K
Porsche Carrera GT2, $192K

Only issue is actually being able to get a 360 at that price. I wonder if the Ferrari dealers still have a two year wait...
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:16 PM
  #8  
Viken's Avatar
Viken
Keeper of the Truth
Lifetime Rennlist
Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 8
From: So Cal
Default Re: OT: Car Comparison

Originally posted by Sputnik
As it could be seen 911GT2 is a definite winner. Aside from those numbers it is probably worth to mention that GT2 uses less gas. It has smaller engine. It is not as "showy" as F360. It doesn't require as much maintenance work as ferrari does. And mantainance work doesn't cost 7000 dollars. The car itself costs much less than Modena. It even could be used as a daily driver! Four seats....easy to drive...bla-bla-bla...
And, how is it that you know all these for a fact? Do you own both cars? If so, have you learned to drive them both close to or at their potential? That, to me, is the only way to compare cars like these.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:36 PM
  #9  
Sputnik's Avatar
Sputnik
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Default

I've just compared the numbers from the chart. I have no personal experience of driving any of those cars. From those numbers it just looks like GT2 faster and more powerful car. And for less money.
By the way...from what I've read on internet...there is a waiting list for new Ferrari. For some models the waiting period can be as long as 4 years
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:39 PM
  #10  
ZAMIRZ's Avatar
ZAMIRZ
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 1
From: L.A.
Default

this is a fine example of "magazine racing". People look at the stats and automatically assume something from the given written info. Aside from that, the comparison is pretty biased toward the Porsche, as the 360 Modena is more comparable to a 911 Turbo than a GT2.........as Greg mentioned. The Stradale and the GT2 are competing for the same customer so that would be a much more fair comparison if you're into magazine racing. For me personally, I'd probably take the GT2 over the Modena, but then I'd rather have the Stradale over any Porsche 911 if I could afford the maintenance. Steve also brought up two very valid points, the sound of that small displacement high-revving V8 coupled with the SEX appeal a Ferrari's curves ooze will make many a grown man melt.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:44 PM
  #11  
Sputnik's Avatar
Sputnik
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
From: Santa Monica, Ca
Default

...the comparison is pretty biased toward the Porsche
well...it is Porsche forum
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:47 PM
  #12  
Viken's Avatar
Viken
Keeper of the Truth
Lifetime Rennlist
Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 8
From: So Cal
Default

Originally posted by Sputnik
I've just compared the numbers from the chart. I have no personal experience of driving any of those cars. From those numbers it just looks like GT2 faster and more powerful car. And for less money.
By the way...from what I've read on internet...there is a waiting list for new Ferrari. For some models the waiting period can be as long as 4 years
I was referring to your comments like the ease of driving and the cost of maintenance. I have personal experience with these cars and I assure you that:

1- The GT2 is not easier to drive
2- The GT2 is far more money (for 2004, base price is $192k)
3- The cost of maintenance on the Ferrari is not $7000
4- The GT2 does not use less gas
5- The GT2 does not have rear seats
6- The two cars don't really compare

As to the "showy" factor, I drove my lowly GT3 last weekend and just as many people were looking at it as the 360.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:48 PM
  #13  
PK's Avatar
PK
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: Irvine, CA
Default

Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
the sound of that small displacement high-revving V8 coupled with the SEX appeal a Ferrari's curves ooze will make many a grown man melt.
ZAMIRZ, you forgot to add a Tubi exhaust note to that....
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2003 | 09:45 PM
  #14  
GrantG's Avatar
GrantG
Addict
Rennlist Member

20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 20,002
Likes: 7,027
From: Denver
Default

The Ferrari doesn't have a bigger engine, they're each 3.6L...
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 02:32 AM
  #15  
lexpilot's Avatar
lexpilot
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
From: Central Oregon
Default

I think it's obvious that on this board the consensus would be for the GT2. But the best bang for the buck is a 993. Any 993. My lowly 1995 coupe with CHROME (I know some of you hate them) wheels looks to the average guy on the street to be a 2000 model year and looks like some $50-60K car to most of ém. I had a BMW driver (acquaintance) ask me in the athletic club parking lot on Monday what my car cost. I did not give an answer because he was guessing $50K.
Last Saturday night we went to a big fancy party and a speed yellow GT2 was parked in front. Which I thought was great. This week at my athletic club several of us were recanting last saturday nights doings. The topic of the gorgeous GT2 car came up and I was raving how nice it must be. One of the guys (who has had at least one Ferrari, currently drives a supercharged XJR, Lotus, and Corvette) said "Yes but most of the party goers don't know that your car is any different from a GT2." This fellow has had some Porsches prior as well.
BTW I followed a new black Maserati down the hill about a week ago and it had a fantastic V8 exhaust note, too.
Reply




All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:48 AM.