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Old 06-10-2016, 09:09 AM
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Would love to hear some thoughts regarding the price of this beauty:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/162095249598

I've been looking for an Arena Red 993 for a few months, and I'm starting to get familiar with prices, I just don't know how to factor in the high miles.
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Local Canadian car but ships from NY?

Maintenance and PPI is a must. Most issues should be addressed by now with upgrades. Upgrades do not add dollar value. It makes the car more appealing to a buyer over a lower mile car without issues addressed.
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Originally Posted by chsu74
Local Canadian car but ships from NY?

Maintenance and PPI is a must. Most issues should be addressed by now with upgrades. Upgrades do not add dollar value. It makes the car more appealing to a buyer over a lower mile car without issues addressed.
agree that ppi a must in this case

leave aside canadian/us issue and import duty required, i feel at 132k miles ppi would need to check out very very clean with virtually no engine compression/seepage/sai/obd2 issues to justify the asking price...96 cars are the hardest to pass usa smog testing and their ecu's are hardest to 'massage' to meet current regs if that need arises

photos are small on ebay ad, but also looks like there is also headliner sag as well as wear on driver side seat bolster...

this all being said, arena red with nice twists are a beautiful combo
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Originally Posted by hjles
Would love to hear some thoughts regarding the price of this beauty:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/162095249598

I've been looking for an Arena Red 993 for a few months, and I'm starting to get familiar with prices, I just don't know how to factor in the high miles.
If the top end hasn't been done, I would discount the price by $5-7k. The top end plus "while you're in there" stuff will probably end up costing you $10-15k so this way each side contributes about 50%. There is also the expense and minor hassle of importing the car from Canada. Unless it was a "good deal" I recommend buying a US car.
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Flip side is that I've been repeatedly told by expert buyers (read: flippers) in the market who've never owned any 911 that I've got a sub-$40K car.
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Subject car originally optioned with sport seats (373 & 374).
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Originally Posted by chsu74
Local Canadian car but ships from NY?
I think it is in Canada, close to the US

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Originally Posted by race911
Flip side is that I've been repeatedly told by expert buyers (read: flippers) in the market who've never owned any 911 that I've got a sub-$40K car.
I will offer $40,000.01.
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Originally Posted by chsu74
I will offer $40,000.01.
Only car I'd move it for would be in (likely) part trade for a worthwhile 2.2/2.4 S project. Really though, it's just been sitting for the past 2.5 years as it's destined to be a car left for use at a second home.
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I'd jump on it. Drive it and mentally budget for some top end work...but you may not need anything.

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You could get a PPI and get comp/leakdown results, and check the emissions system to make sure the SAI ports aren't all plugged up.

New York state for 1996 and newer model years is strictly an OBD II inspection. As long as the monitors will set you should be good to go.



How frequently do Arena Red C4S 993s become available?
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assuming it has normal issues any 132k miles car would have, seems like a decent deal.
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mid fifties i'd say is my 2 cents and thats best case scenario with a clean bill of health…. saw a c4s with slightly under 100k recently sold for under 60k. The bubble for these higher mileage cars I believe has popped

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If this car sells in the mid fifties, then ain't no one is going to get a 3TT under $100K
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The AC compressor isn't hooked up and looks like it is in bad shape. There's got to be a story with this car.

I'd recommend running your own carfax in addition to doing the PPI
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Yep and I agree…somebody looking to cash in on air cooled craze. It's been on ebay a few times AND is still around.


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