Bought a 993...sort of.
#61
Sorry Buddy but it's quite unanimous in this 993 forum that we not only disagree with your point but fail to understand your train of thought. I understand a well chosen 996 is a great deal but coming from a perspective of a guy that has put quite a few miles on both, I have to say most 993's are a quite a bit more engaging drive. Why do you think the market is where it is? Despite
Porsche making quite a few of them, they have achieved an almost "cult" following. The "last air-cooled" has attracted some, less electronic nannies compared to the newer models has attracted others and still others have been attracted to the size and proportions of them vs the water-pumpers. Me, I like all those things. Don't get me wrong, if I could use a 911 daily I would strongly consider a 996/7. Cheers
Porsche making quite a few of them, they have achieved an almost "cult" following. The "last air-cooled" has attracted some, less electronic nannies compared to the newer models has attracted others and still others have been attracted to the size and proportions of them vs the water-pumpers. Me, I like all those things. Don't get me wrong, if I could use a 911 daily I would strongly consider a 996/7. Cheers
#62
I'm still trying to understand the OP. Can someone explain to me how a 997 is a "new" 993? The 997 is humongous size-wise compared to a 993 and it's obviously water-cooled. An evolution in the classic 911 shape too.
And no Johnny Irish, I'm not tense or upset at all. Just thinking your OP was maybe sarcasm?
And no Johnny Irish, I'm not tense or upset at all. Just thinking your OP was maybe sarcasm?
#64
BTW, I was seriously considering a 996 cab or a 997 cab as a daily driver in FL after owning a pair of 993 cabs as daily drivers in MA.
996 can be had for $15K or so, making it cheap and leaving "the other $25K" for repairs and hassles. 997 would be a decent compromise overall. though about $20K more expensive but with fewer hassles. Another 993 was also a consideration but I decided that since I've promised myself easy living in Miami... I ended up buying another Miata. That NC been a daily driver for 2 years with an occasional autocross.
They are all a compromise. Including 993s. My current 993 happens to be yellow, which happens to put a smile on my face once in a while on a sunny day with a roof down (when it's not exasperating to live with). I don't see a grey 996 causing any emotions, period, but that's just me.
996 can be had for $15K or so, making it cheap and leaving "the other $25K" for repairs and hassles. 997 would be a decent compromise overall. though about $20K more expensive but with fewer hassles. Another 993 was also a consideration but I decided that since I've promised myself easy living in Miami... I ended up buying another Miata. That NC been a daily driver for 2 years with an occasional autocross.
They are all a compromise. Including 993s. My current 993 happens to be yellow, which happens to put a smile on my face once in a while on a sunny day with a roof down (when it's not exasperating to live with). I don't see a grey 996 causing any emotions, period, but that's just me.
#66
That is hilarious on so many levels.
How much did your '15 Macan cost, exactly? Why didn't you buy a $25K SUV? Why do you feel that 993 is a "special" car that we buy for "appreciation" instead of driving and, hopefully, enjoying? The selling of a 993 comment doesn't really merit any comments. Costing twice as much as a comparable 996, it's soooooo.... difficult to sell, while 996s just fly off to the new owners once they show their pretty face on classifieds.
How much did your '15 Macan cost, exactly? Why didn't you buy a $25K SUV? Why do you feel that 993 is a "special" car that we buy for "appreciation" instead of driving and, hopefully, enjoying? The selling of a 993 comment doesn't really merit any comments. Costing twice as much as a comparable 996, it's soooooo.... difficult to sell, while 996s just fly off to the new owners once they show their pretty face on classifieds.
Anyway, I'm not here to **** in your yard. I do appreciate the 993, but I just can't justify its cost and that's a personal choice. Just like its a personal choice for you guys to buy and own it.
BTW, I didn't mean that there is no market for 993s, and the 996 market is booming. What I meant was if you want to sell it at the price you want, it will take a special buyer.; let's be honest with ourselves. And no I don't think the 993 is any more special than the BMW 2002, or the E30 M3. They're all great cars. Would I drop $25K on an E30 M3? Absolutely not.
#68
Anyway, I'm not here to **** in your yard. I do appreciate the 993, but I just can't justify its cost and that's a personal choice. Just like its a personal choice for you guys to buy and own it.
BTW, I didn't mean that there is no market for 993s, and the 996 market is booming. What I meant was if you want to sell it at the price you want, it will take a special buyer.; let's be honest with ourselves. And no I don't think the 993 is any more special than the BMW 2002, or the E30 M3. They're all great cars. Would I drop $25K on an E30 M3? Absolutely not.
But that's the fact of life today. And it boils down to increased demand and fairly low supply. It has nothing, nothing to do with absolute price, impracticality or any other reason. It's just that demand for a 993, any 993, today seriously exceeds supply. And supply for 996 severely exceeds demand. Thus, regardless of anything else, pretty much any 993 is an easy sell while pretty much any 996 is not.
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#71
The appeal, of course, is winter weather. GF likes living on the beach. I like excellent variety of food. Having said that, I'd not chose to live there year around. It's like a 5-6 months long vacation for us. Driving a convertible in the middle of February somehow makes me smile. Not sure why.
PS. I do clearly understand your sentiment, though. The SoFla can be downright weird and the number of certified douchebags per square mile is simply stunning. It's a precarious balance but we're OK with it so far.
#72
What you can get there is fresh ceviche, good flank steak (chimichuri), good cubano and medianoche sandwiches, pargo entero, decent mojitos. Stuff I certainly miss in Boston. Or anywhere else, for that matter. Oh, and sun
PS. Anthony Bourdain got a decent documentary out of Miami. Though his affinity for Club Duece...
#73
Eh, I make my own cubano
What you can get there is fresh ceviche, good flank steak (chimichuri), good cubano and medianoche sandwiches, pargo entero, decent mojitos. Stuff I certainly miss in Boston. Or anywhere else, for that matter. Oh, and sun
PS. Anthony Bourdain got a decent documentary out of Miami. Though his affinity for Club Duece...
What you can get there is fresh ceviche, good flank steak (chimichuri), good cubano and medianoche sandwiches, pargo entero, decent mojitos. Stuff I certainly miss in Boston. Or anywhere else, for that matter. Oh, and sun
PS. Anthony Bourdain got a decent documentary out of Miami. Though his affinity for Club Duece...
#74
Well, let's see here. I'm 47. That's 47 winters full of snow. Lots and lots of snow. Old country, then Rochester, NY, then Boston. Are you beginning to see the appeal now? Boston had 103" of snow this past winter. I watched it on TV, including a CNN weather person camped in front of our Boston digs for most of February. It was a pleasure to watch snow on TV, I wouldn't lie.
The appeal, of course, is winter weather. GF likes living on the beach. I like excellent variety of food. Having said that, I'd not chose to live there year around. It's like a 5-6 months long vacation for us. Driving a convertible in the middle of February somehow makes me smile. Not sure why.
PS. I do clearly understand your sentiment, though. The SoFla can be downright weird and the number of certified douchebags per square mile is simply stunning. It's a precarious balance but we're OK with it so far.
The appeal, of course, is winter weather. GF likes living on the beach. I like excellent variety of food. Having said that, I'd not chose to live there year around. It's like a 5-6 months long vacation for us. Driving a convertible in the middle of February somehow makes me smile. Not sure why.
PS. I do clearly understand your sentiment, though. The SoFla can be downright weird and the number of certified douchebags per square mile is simply stunning. It's a precarious balance but we're OK with it so far.
We all wish (here) for a mild winter in MA and a "dumped on" winter in Maine.
Two weeks in the Caribbean late Jan/early Feb cures a lot of winter blues and gets me over the hump. . .
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#75
Not sure how Johnny Irish wound up here after buying a 997, but enjoy the semi-coherent rambling and photos of trappings from (obviously better) days gone by...
At least he hasn't worked in a reference to his most recent Amazon "book."
Enjoy! He's all (for reasons I still can't fathom) yours.
At least he hasn't worked in a reference to his most recent Amazon "book."
Enjoy! He's all (for reasons I still can't fathom) yours.