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Old 02-07-2015, 02:30 AM
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NYC993
Clogged with whatl? How is it going to settle? It's flowing under high pressure thanks to the oil pump, no?



What does "settle" mean? Where is it settling to? I thought you don't want to drive car for short distances because during warm up the engine is not at operating temp during that time and oil is not at optimal temp to provide ideal lubrication.



Are you saying that idling for 30 seconds is equivalent to bring the engine to operating temps?

By all means, start your car cold and run it to redline. Then shut it off. Repeat. Good luck.
Old 02-07-2015, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ZEPHYR STEPHEN
hi how do i start my own post?
Go to the 993 Forum Home page ( https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum-58/ ) click on the Post Topic box in the upper left-hand corner of the page. A new blank thread will open.
Old 02-07-2015, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. No
By all means, start your car cold and run it to redline. Then shut it off. Repeat. Good luck.
I'm not sure what this has to do with my questions. Needing to warm the car up has mostly to do with parts expanding.

I was trying to see the logic behind your advice to understand what "oil settling" means and why it's necessary.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
I see a strong need for a live, video clinic on dry sump engines,....

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I agree.
But the need is not limited to just "dry-sumped" engines.
Many people here have limited knowledge regarding mechanical IC engine principals.
They've obviously been concentrating on other areas of their personal expertise.

Craig
Old 02-07-2015, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. No
By all means, start your car cold and run it to redline. Then shut it off. Repeat. Good luck.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC993
I'm not sure what this has to do with my questions. Needing to warm the car up has mostly to do with parts expanding.

I was trying to see the logic behind your advice to understand what "oil settling" means and why it's necessary.
Primarily, needing to warm up car, to proper operating temp, and running it long enough, is to burn off condensation (water/contaminants) from your oil. The driving at temp helps remove deposits and corrosion that can't happen, when people just periodically start, idle and warm their cars. The trans needs the same activity, so starting w/o proper driving would most likely be worse than not starting.
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Originally Posted by cgfen
I agree.
But the need is not limited to just "dry-sumped" engines.
Many people here have limited knowledge regarding mechanical IC engine principals.
They've obviously been concentrating on other areas of their personal expertise.

Craig
I do just that by hosting local clinics and sometimes individual ones with my clients.
Old 02-07-2015, 02:11 PM
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After hour upon hour on the phone with Stevie. I've finally learned that the pistons are the thingies which go up and down, and that the crank is the thingis which goes 'round and 'round.

Amazing...the depth of his knowledge!!!

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Old 02-07-2015, 11:53 PM
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The pistons in my engine go from left to right and then back again
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Originally Posted by Rick-A-Shay
The pistons in my engine go from left to right and then back again
I would take that into the dealer right away. Sounds like it hasn't been installed correctly.
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Originally Posted by Rick-A-Shay
The pistons in my engine go from left to right and then back again
I've seen 'em swap sides.
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Originally Posted by OverBoosted28
Primarily, needing to warm up car, to proper operating temp, and running it long enough, is to burn off condensation (water/contaminants) from your oil. The driving at temp helps remove deposits and corrosion that can't happen, when people just periodically start, idle and warm their cars. The trans needs the same activity, so starting w/o proper driving would most likely be worse than not starting.
All valid points. I also recall reading that air-cooled engine expands by half and inch from cold to hot, which seems kind of crazy

Off topic: we used to have a Lada back in the day. That car would not move over a tiniest hill until it was fully warmed up. The engine had 60-70hp only when fully warmed up.
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Originally Posted by OverBoosted28
Primarily, needing to warm up car, to proper operating temp, and running it long enough, is to burn off condensation (water/contaminants) from your oil. The driving at temp helps remove deposits and corrosion that can't happen, when people just periodically start, idle and warm their cars. The trans needs the same activity, so starting w/o proper driving would most likely be worse than not starting.
Valuable proposition from California...
Guess I have to sell mine since it snows 4 months a year... but then if you don't start it during the winter months, you end up with empty tappets in the spring and all the racket.
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