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Old 10-03-2014, 06:39 PM
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Default Bosch Hammer Alternative - PDT999?

http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/diag/Diag.htm

Anyone have a PDT999? If so, do you recommended it?

Trying to decide between the Hammer and this cheaper clone.
Old 10-04-2014, 08:47 AM
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.I have it and it does all what I need. Talk to the guys directly for any specific question
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I'd love to hear someone's comparison of this to durametrics. I haven't seen this hammer knockoff project before, and have so much trouble with my durametrics I pretty much have given up using it. Thanks for posting this possible alt.
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From the PDT999 site: Read ECU's from 928 (S4/GT/GTS) / 944 S2 / 964 (C2/C4) / 968 and 993 (with round connector).

Does this not indicate 1995 993's with the OBDI system? If so, that should answer the applicability question on the unit working on an OBDII (rectangular) interface port found on 1996 and later 993's.

EDIT:
More research indicates that there is also a rectangular OBDII connector, and the UDT and PDT tools are indeed OBDII compatible!
Time to download their manual for complete listing of functionality.

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Do all of them diagnose and delete error codes or just diagnose them?
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Originally Posted by nine9six
From the PDT999 site: Read ECU's from 928 (S4/GT/GTS) / 944 S2 / 964 (C2/C4) / 968 and 993 (with round connector).

Does this not indicate 1995 993's with the OBDI system? If so, that should answer the applicability question on the unit working on an OBDII (rectangular) interface port found on 1996 and later 993's.
I got it with OBD2 connector and it works. I git it because it can cycle the ABS bump for brake bleeding of my C4S. Just contact the folks for any specific question. His product is quite popular in Europe.
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Thanks all. Yes, I plan to contact the vendor for specific questions, but always like to get some unbiased feedback if I can.

I've been searching the Google and can't find any negative feedback. Looks like I may have to give it a shot. The PC version (UDT999) seems great as well. I like the ease of use of the hand-held version though.
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Originally Posted by e9stibi
I got it with OBD2 connector and it works. I git it because it can cycle the ABS bump for brake bleeding of my C4S. Just contact the folks for any specific question. His product is quite popular in Europe.
This is great news! I wonder why the seller does not update his site for compatibility?

I too would be interested in this tools complete functionality. See edit comment on my initial post in bold

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Old 10-05-2014, 12:52 AM
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I have a Durametric and used it to read several codes and erase same on my '96. This after my Indy checked my charging system after I blew battery caps! HOWEVER, I had to tell the Durametric that my car was a 964 before I could get all the codes to pull up…… go figure! I got that idea from them, if I recall!
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Originally Posted by Cowhorn
Do all of them diagnose and delete error codes or just diagnose them?
Cowhorn,
"All" is very subjective, and when you say "them", are you referring to the diagnostic testers? If so, who could possibly know how ALL of them perform?

I have an Actron CP9580 OBDII reader which will read, diagnose, and reset/delete error codes. Only problem is, we have learned that the Actron model may not capture all codes being thrown.

Keith (Kika) discovered this when he took his car to an indy who had access to a Hammer or PST-2, and found additional error codes, not reported by his Actron OBDII daignostic tool.

I also have a Durametrics which is better/more inclusive than the Actron, but not as good or intuitive as a Hammer, PST-2, or PIWIS diagnostic test tools. For sure I know it doesn't reset airbag lights. Next time I use my Durametrics, I will do as Rick-A-Shay suggests, and configure it to a 964

If the UDT999 tool can do what a PST-2 can do, I'm in! I would certeinly like to hear more discussion on the UDT999 tool and how well it performs on the Porsche 96-98 993 OBDII systems.
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Originally Posted by nine9six
Cowhorn,

If the UDT999 tool can do what a PST-2 can do, I'm in! I would certeinly like to hear more discussion on the UDT999 tool and how well it performs on the Porsche 96-98 993 OBDII systems.
What he said :-)

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I bought the UDT999. As a former professional programmer, I'll say it's pretty darn rough around the edges. I'm guessing that's part of the deal since the developers are reverse engineering everything and don't have access to all the systems used in a North America spec 993.

Also, I don't have anything to compare it to (I don't have a hammer or PST2), but could do a bunch of screenshots and descriptions of behavior if that would add value.
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Originally Posted by mpruden
I bought the UDT999. As a former professional programmer, I'll say it's pretty darn rough around the edges. I'm guessing that's part of the deal since the developers are reverse engineering everything and don't have access to all the systems used in a North America spec 993.

Also, I don't have anything to compare it to (I don't have a hammer or PST2), but could do a bunch of screenshots and descriptions of behavior if that would add value.
I guess in my case -- does the functionality work?

In particular I'm looking to be able to fully test the alarm system.

I guess I can order it and if it doesn't work either return it -- or pass it along to someone that doesn't need those functions.

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Originally Posted by txhokie4life
I guess in my case -- does the functionality work?

In particular I'm looking to be able to fully test the alarm system.

I guess I can order it and if it doesn't work either return it -- or pass it along to someone that doesn't need those functions.

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Does the functionality work? That's a harder question to answer than you may think.

My understanding is that the software was designed to mirror the capabilities of a Bosch Hammer. I don't have a Hammer, so I can't say really say that it behaves as expected, since I don't know what to expect.

I'm happy to take screenshots of the actual behavior of the software related to the alarm module, but you'll have to decide if it meets your expectations of a full test.

I'm away from the car for next 24 hours or so traveling, but should be able to get to this in the next few days.
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mpruden,
I will look forward to any additional information you may be able to provide...

BTW, I do have the owners/operator manual for the Bosch Hammer, which may provide functionalities. If you PM me, I would be happy to email it to you.

It's also possible the functionality is listed in the 993 Workshop Manual.
Thx


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