Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Alternator Saga Engine Wiring Harness Repair or Replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-30-2014, 08:58 PM
  #1  
benjr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
benjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Marcos CA
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Alternator Saga Engine Wiring Harness Repair or Replacement

I recently discovered I have a melted or torn engine wiring harness after my rebuilt alternator I replaced quit charging. While I am aware of the recall wiring harness I am on the fence about replacing or repairing it. My 993 is a 1997 and unfortunately mine isn't covered under the recall, I double-checked the part #s on the harness to be sure. I have determined that the blue alternator wire and brown ground wire were damaged. The ground goes to the black box on the driver side of the engine compartment and the blue wire goes into the box on the passenger side of engine compartment. I can a brown and blue wire and splice into existing connectors or purchase the connectors separately ?? and perform a high quality repair or I can replace the harness.
I am being cautious because I don't know what caused the harness to fail.

Mechanical - It came in contact with the alternator shaft on the rear.
Electrical- short in alternator or elsewhere causing wires to burn up

If I repair it and I have another failure I have to do all of that work over. If I buy the recall harness for $100 I have to do the work again and buy another harness.

Looking for feedback if I should repair or replace. See pics below.
Attached Images    
Old 09-30-2014, 09:24 PM
  #2  
kjr914
Drifting
 
kjr914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by benjr
I am being cautious because I don't know what caused the harness to fail.

Mechanical - It came in contact with the alternator shaft on the rear.
Electrical- short in alternator or elsewhere causing wires to burn up
Look up a thread by tj90. He did a fix on his that looked a lot like this.

Its not the mechanical failure you mention, since the alt shaft is fully enclosed. But, IF the alt is put in 90degrees off (easy to do....), your alt wire harness will lay on/near the engine top and can easily be melted by the heat.
Old 09-30-2014, 09:31 PM
  #3  
benjr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
benjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Marcos CA
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what if the wire came in contact inside the back cover ? Is that a possibility?
Old 09-30-2014, 10:11 PM
  #4  
Tom T.
Instructor
 
Tom T.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The wire insulation in your first picture looks completely torn. $100 is very cheap insurance against a fire which will damage a whole lot more than the wire. Replace it with the new & improved harness.
Old 09-30-2014, 10:48 PM
  #5  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,518
Received 80 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Why is this a question? I'd not knowingly eff around with suspect electrical wiring near an engine pumping gasoline. It's a pain either way, but less of a pain, IMO with a $100 harness.
Old 09-30-2014, 10:53 PM
  #6  
kjr914
Drifting
 
kjr914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,413
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by benjr
what if the wire came in contact inside the back cover ? Is that a possibility?
No. there is a rubber grommet (bottom right of his photo) that seats into the housing and minimal wiring is inside the back cover. From the grommet, the little wiring to the right in the pic is inside the housing. What is burnt in the picutre is everything outside the housing.
Old 10-01-2014, 09:12 AM
  #7  
AOW162435
Seared
Rennlist Member
 
AOW162435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 16,776
Received 415 Likes on 233 Posts
Default

I would replace the harness. The affected wires may have other compromised sections hidden by the sheath.



Andreas
Old 10-01-2014, 10:05 AM
  #8  
pp000830
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
pp000830's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 9,711
Received 1,509 Likes on 1,065 Posts
Default

I agree with AOW162435 Replace as I have found in such cases hot spots along wires subjected to excessive load have compromised the insulation or reduced the ductility of the conductors in sections that did not progress to exhibit external melting. The worst thing would be to not replace and have other seemingly unresolvable issues in the future who's root cause could be traced back to a repaired harness.

Last edited by pp000830; 10-01-2014 at 05:53 PM.
Old 10-01-2014, 10:25 AM
  #9  
Jay J
Racer
 
Jay J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 463
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Mine did the same(It melted other wires)..I went through 3 batteries after replacing just the main wire with a 0GA) before ripping it all out to do the whole harness....
Old 08-21-2015, 06:55 PM
  #10  
fade67
6th Gear
 
fade67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not sure if anyone is still looking here, but i just went through the same issue. it seems that the melting of the wiring harness was caused by an insufficient ground. My mechanic felt that replacing the harness would simply delay the problem from happening again. His solution was to put a heavier gauge ground wire in. So far so good.



Quick Reply: Alternator Saga Engine Wiring Harness Repair or Replacement



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:32 AM.