Blizzard

What do the people think about the Tiptronic - is the car still fun to drive or do you need a 6 speed to have a real 993?

How does the Tiptronic affect the car's value?

Thanks

Bins

Dangerous Question if you go through past archives.

Tips are slightly negligibly lower in price compared to its manual sibling.

As for whether one is preferable to another, I can only suggest you test for yourself. Basically, if you drive mainly in traffic then you may prefer the tip.

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fbfisher

If you are long legged you will find that the Tip has a nice place to stretch your left leg due to the absense of the clutch pedal - I'm 6'6'' and I can fully extend and lock my knee which is great on long trips. As stated above, tips are great in traffic or when trying to balance a cup of coffee between your legs and a phone on your ear.

But for the pure driving excitment as well as better acceleration and gear box/engine rev control for a given situation, the 6 speed is the way to go. IMHO the tip is a bit of a dog out of the hole.

Just my $0.02

Deano

i just bought a tip c2s after driving stick pefromance cars for a long time. I love it. The tip acclamates to driving style ( i believe) and I an rip, zip, sling and wing around by flipping from the wheel. It's awesome upshifting though corners - getting the tires loose. It's especially nice living in the city, if your tall, not smelling clutch burn (by accident), not worrying about clutch replacement or blown tranny's I have only owned the car a few weeks... However, no dissapointments so far. Enjoy!

GratefulJED

Fbfisher is absolutely right about the tip being a dog out of the hole, however, Steve Weiner is going to address that issue this winter. I too drove sticks for a long time and wanted a car I could enjoy without the clutch/tranny issue. That being said, I love the tip although I never use the tip or just "D" - I start down in "2" or "1" and go from there. With the upgraded engine brains from Steve that I just put in yesterday the car is a LOT more responsive! I also just bought an 82sc for fun because of my Rennlist induced testosterone charge! To the right buyer, I would thing the tip might well be worth more

fbfisher

[quote]Originally posted by NM98CAB:
<strong>Fbfisher is absolutely right about the tip being a dog out of the hole, however, Steve Weiner is going to address that issue this winter. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Showing my ignorance - Who is Steve Weiner and how does he plan to address this issue? Perhaps I should not exclude tips from my search after all???

GratefulJED

Steve is at Rennsport Systems in Portland, and he informs me that during the winter months (slow time) he is going to mess around with modifying the brains of the tip tranny. Several 993 people have expressed interest, and he says the 996 tip has good results. Do a search for his number & web site - I do not have it handy.

johnfm

I have a 964 Tip, and its still a very fast car. However, I think the only way to address any issues is with the gear ratios. If you compare the ratios in the manual with those in the tip, the tip ratios are a bit of a compromise (there is, after all, only 4 gears!!).

I think the reaon the 996 tip is seen as "addressing the issues" is that they have 5 ratios to play with.
Just my 0.02c.

GratefulJED

JohnF
Makes perfect sense to me. Is it throttle response that causes the car to lug below 1K?