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Old 01-30-2014, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by u7t2p7 View Post
I respectfully disagree. Parts like these have increased at a similiar rate to the car itself. I'd say $7,000 range; blame it on supply and demand (again).
You say tomato...

While certain parts resellers have put 993 sport seats up on ebay for $10k in the past couple of years, they never sell for anywhere near that. At least as far as I've heard. YMMV.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by u7t2p7 View Post
I respectfully disagree. Parts like these have increased at a similiar rate to the car itself. I'd say $7,000 range; blame it on supply and demand (again).
I believe that this fairly accurate in today's climate. Just ask Opo. He posted an ad, or a post of some type, last year stating that he would pay up to $6,500, IIRC.

In excellent condition, I believe they're roughly in the $6,000-7,000 range without too much of a problem.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock View Post
I believe that this fairly accurate in today's climate. Just ask Opo. He posted an ad, or a post of some type, last year stating that he would pay up to $6,500, IIRC.

In excellent condition, I believe they're roughly in the $6,000-7,000 range without too much of a problem.
in excellent condition...WITH heat..I agree with the above.

unfortunately.

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Old 01-30-2014, 09:41 AM
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The hard back sport seats were not a very expensive option. WHich leads me to believe (at the time) buyers didn't spec them in large numbers because they did not see them (in general) as a worth while upgrade.

Keep in mind, the stock seat in the 3.2, 964 and up to the 993, where all similar in style and shape. All offered a similar style sport seat to stock with high bolsters. This was the norm, and what most were used to in the 911 for 15 years.

The hard backs were a pretty big departure. Whether they were desirable when these cars were ordered, is completely debatable - obviously to some buyers. The hardbacks have stood the test of time and are way up on the list of desirable factory options - or just my best guess if a poll was taken.

Which leads me to this point... I'm hearing about taking them out of cars to resell? With the way the market had gone with these cars and the sport seats over 12 months, I can't see how this makes a bit of sense unless the car is a real terd.
In my opinion, taking sport seats out of a good original car that has the seats on the option sticker, (good car being highly debatable, but let's stick with the standards of the most scrutinizing buyer or reseller) substantially devalues the car. First of all, the most particular buyer that is willing to pay top dollar, will not touch the car if an original option as big as sport seats is missing. And secondly, I'd being willing to bet that the better the car, the more it devalues it to have something like hardbacks missing when originally spec'd - especially when talking C2S and Turbo.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:56 AM
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:13 AM
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heated seats in a 993...hmmm...now THAT would be nice. Was that an option...for sport seats or otherwise?
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen View Post
heated seats in a 993...hmmm...now THAT would be nice. Was that an option...for sport seats or otherwise?
Been an option in all 911's since 1985
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Originally Posted by RodKnock View Post
In excellent condition, I believe they're roughly in the $6,000-7,000 range without too much of a problem.
Yup. I know of three sales in this range, two sets of heated 4-way, one in very good and one in pristine condition and a pair of RS/GT1 Komfort manual's. The day of $4000 sport seats that you don't have to rebuild/restore is over.
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i recently got into the 993 community after buying my car in october. and i cant believe what the hardback seats cost these days compared to new. new i think they were a ~$450 option? im just as surprised that not many cars were ordered them either. for the money it seems like a great upgrade. i dont think i will ever understand why they weren't more popular.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:01 PM
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Look at modern Porsches like the 996, 997, and 991, I found way more of them with standard seat than sport seat. I can't explain and don't know why. Personally I would never order a Porsche with no sport seat.

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Originally Posted by 405 View Post
i recently got into the 993 community after buying my car in october. and i cant believe what the hardback seats cost these days compared to new. new i think they were a ~$450 option? im just as surprised that not many cars were ordered them either. for the money it seems like a great upgrade. i dont think i will ever understand why they weren't more popular.
...It is a little bit of a head scratcher.

Only reason I can come up with, is that the style of the sport seats were somewhat of a departure from the style seat that was in the 911 from the 3.2 to the 993 - not saying the 3.2, 964, and 993 had the same seats, they were all update with each model. But they were similar style in shape/feel. And the sport seat variation was very similar, just with large bolsters.

The hardback was a completely different and new look.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:12 PM
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One possibility relative to the fewer sports seats being ordered is that they can be "confining" or uncomfortable for large-sized buyers. And as you know, America is getting fatter as a nation.

Back on 12/20/13, there was a set heated black sport seats listed on the SF Bay Area CL for $4,500. I inquired within about 2-3 hours of the initial post, but they were sold. So, maybe with some time and patience, one could find a set for less than $5,000, but you may have a very long wait.
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Old 01-30-2014, 02:29 PM
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Another thing to consider is that sport seat rarity also depends on which market the car was sold in. In the US, it seems they were less common. In Canada and the UK, they were far more common, to the extent that I'd guess the non-sport seat was the rarity. Just an observation.
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