Another C&C and tie-rod pinning party in OC, CA
10-17-2013, 05:53 PM
#16
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Great.
Paul --- it's good to keep an updated list of who's coming. I think it's good policy to have brand new HSS bits for the project (have at least 4). I believe they are 5/16" but not entirely sure. You might ask Andy or Peter the size.
So far the list for tie rod pinning is:
1) nine9six
2) For202Fly
3) windydog
4) LuckyJ
5) delta
Marc
Paul --- it's good to keep an updated list of who's coming. I think it's good policy to have brand new HSS bits for the project (have at least 4). I believe they are 5/16" but not entirely sure. You might ask Andy or Peter the size.
So far the list for tie rod pinning is:
1) nine9six
2) For202Fly
3) windydog
4) LuckyJ
5) delta
Marc
10-17-2013, 05:55 PM
#17
Paul,
You can try sharpening, but I wouldn't try to sharpen just freehand using a wheel as you really want straight cuts. If the bit breaks or catches on the tie rod, you could stand to make an untrue hole or break your bit in your tie rod. HSS bits are only $3-4 a piece at Home Depot and we probably only need 3-4 for 10 cars (that's two holes per car - one for each tie rod).
Also see if you can get a bag of roll pins. I would think someone like McFadden-Dale Hardware would carry something like this. Refer to my other post (or ask Kika) what the roll pin diameter and length is.
No problem. I've mounted at least 4 sets of cans just these past few months and they install easily using my lift. About a 30-45 minute job.
So far the list for tie rod pinning is:
1) nine9six
2) For202Fly
3) windydog
4) LuckyJ
5) delta
Marc
You can try sharpening, but I wouldn't try to sharpen just freehand using a wheel as you really want straight cuts. If the bit breaks or catches on the tie rod, you could stand to make an untrue hole or break your bit in your tie rod. HSS bits are only $3-4 a piece at Home Depot and we probably only need 3-4 for 10 cars (that's two holes per car - one for each tie rod).
Also see if you can get a bag of roll pins. I would think someone like McFadden-Dale Hardware would carry something like this. Refer to my other post (or ask Kika) what the roll pin diameter and length is.
No problem. I've mounted at least 4 sets of cans just these past few months and they install easily using my lift. About a 30-45 minute job.
So far the list for tie rod pinning is:
1) nine9six
2) For202Fly
3) windydog
4) LuckyJ
5) delta
Marc
The tool is a "drill jig" with guide bores for the drill bit, yes?
We'll be just fine...Or everyone can bring their own new bit, and I'll use one I sharpen...
List is updated, and Andy is PM'ing this evening with the drill size.
P.S. I am not questioning your engineering prowess, but I did do 15 yrs a machinist at LBNSY, so hopefully I have a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. BTW do you have a center punch that fits the guide hole of the jig?
10-17-2013, 06:18 PM
#18
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Marc,
The tool is a "drill jig" with guide bores for the drill bit, yes?
We'll be just fine...Or everyone can bring their own new bit, and I'll use one I sharpen...
List is updated, and Andy is PM'ing this evening with the drill size.
P.S. I am not questioning your engineering prowess, but I did do 15 yrs a machinist at LBNSY, so hopefully I have a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. BTW do you have a center punch that fits the guide hole of the jig?
The tool is a "drill jig" with guide bores for the drill bit, yes?
We'll be just fine...Or everyone can bring their own new bit, and I'll use one I sharpen...
List is updated, and Andy is PM'ing this evening with the drill size.
P.S. I am not questioning your engineering prowess, but I did do 15 yrs a machinist at LBNSY, so hopefully I have a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. BTW do you have a center punch that fits the guide hole of the jig?
There is quite a bit of torque and drilling that is required to get through these tie rods (each tie rod has 4 sleeves) and, even with drilling oil and taking your time, the drill bits can dull and even break. I do have center punches, but I really do not think there's a need for them with the jig we designed with drill bit bushings.
Marc
10-17-2013, 08:07 PM
#21
Paul,
There is quite a bit of torque and drilling that is required to get through these tie rods (each tie rod has 4 sleeves) and, even with drilling oil and taking your time, the drill bits can dull and even break. I do have center punches, but I really do not think there's a need for them with the jig we designed with drill bit bushings.
Marc
There is quite a bit of torque and drilling that is required to get through these tie rods (each tie rod has 4 sleeves) and, even with drilling oil and taking your time, the drill bits can dull and even break. I do have center punches, but I really do not think there's a need for them with the jig we designed with drill bit bushings.
Marc
If you dont trust my abilities to sharpen a bit then please say so. This is why I suggested all bring their own 5/16 HSS drill bit, so everyone will have their very own sharp bit to start.
Whats more important, is a high quality grade HSS bit, and not the typical China crap (as sold at Home Depot) that cant hold an edge for more than a minute before burning up. Cutting oil without cooling properties, only serves to increases the heat at the cutting edge. That very same heat promotes dulling the cutting edge.
10-18-2013, 02:31 PM
#22
Update...
So far the list for tie rod pinning is as noted below:
1) nine9six (Either date)
2) For202Fly (Either date)
3) windydog (No date mentioned)
4) LuckyJ (Either date)
5) delta (Either date)
6) f8vr993 (Either date)
Guys, I'd like to remind all respondants that we do need comment on the date preferred; with the exception of those who can make either date, the majority will be the deciding factor.
Cheers,
Paul
So far the list for tie rod pinning is as noted below:
1) nine9six (Either date)
2) For202Fly (Either date)
3) windydog (No date mentioned)
4) LuckyJ (Either date)
5) delta (Either date)
6) f8vr993 (Either date)
Guys, I'd like to remind all respondants that we do need comment on the date preferred; with the exception of those who can make either date, the majority will be the deciding factor.
Cheers,
Paul
Last edited by nine9six; 10-18-2013 at 11:51 PM.
10-18-2013, 02:53 PM
#23
Update...
So far the list for tie rod pinning is as noted below:
1) nine9six (Either date)
2) For202Fly (Either date)
3) windydog (No date mentioned)
4) LuckyJ (No date mentioned)
5) delta (No date mentioned)
6) f8vr993 (Either date)
Guys, I'd like to remind all respondants that we do need comment on the date preferred; with the exception of those who can make either date, the majority will be the deciding factor.
Cheers,
Paul
So far the list for tie rod pinning is as noted below:
1) nine9six (Either date)
2) For202Fly (Either date)
3) windydog (No date mentioned)
4) LuckyJ (No date mentioned)
5) delta (No date mentioned)
6) f8vr993 (Either date)
Guys, I'd like to remind all respondants that we do need comment on the date preferred; with the exception of those who can make either date, the majority will be the deciding factor.
Cheers,
Paul
10-20-2013, 08:53 PM
#27
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Okay - We have the tool, pins are coming so things are looking good. I say we wait it out a little longer before we finalize the date.
Paul - FYI - f8vr993 is Stefan, who already did the tie rod pinning. He's just coming for moral support (and drinking beer which he's good at!)
Any other takers for tie rod pinning? Any one can stop by to hang too. We've got room.
Paul - FYI - f8vr993 is Stefan, who already did the tie rod pinning. He's just coming for moral support (and drinking beer which he's good at!)
Any other takers for tie rod pinning? Any one can stop by to hang too. We've got room.
10-21-2013, 02:02 AM
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oooo... not so sure if I need the pin rod, but i would think adding a pin won't make much difference when i'm driving mostly around downtown, so I prob don't need it right? and I have no idea of my schedule yet for either dates so don't put me down for anything, but i hope I'll be free, so i'll come down for c&c and just chill if you guys dont mind 
10-21-2013, 02:08 AM
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oooo... not so sure if I need the pin rod, but i would think adding a pin won't make much difference when i'm driving mostly around downtown, so I prob don't need it right? and I have no idea of my schedule yet for either dates so don't put me down for anything, but i hope I'll be free, so i'll come down for c&c and just chill if you guys dont mind