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Old 06-07-2015, 11:52 AM
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Smile Whn I hear the word Singer...

I think of sewing machine...ole school. I just don't get this car. Never have, never will.

Original 964 cars seem to be picking up in value, with an unmolested SoCal 964 with 200,000 miles and a rebuilt engine, selling for close to $40,000.

From Jalopnik, "Still, despite the breathtaking level of detail Singer techs achieve in building these cars Ś they're certainly not your typical Porsche hackers, by a long shot Ś the price tag still stuns. Starting in the $300,000 range, the Singer 911 can easily top a half mill if a buyer utters the word "yes" a few too many times." For $300,000 to $500,000, one could purchase quite a few nice vintage Porsche cars..., let's say a 1964 356 SC, throw in a 73 911 S, and maybe still have some change in their pocket.

So I really don't care enough about the Singer to be a "hater"; but this old saying comes to mind when I contemplate anyone spending $300,000 on this thing, "A fool and his money are soon parted."

In retrospect, maybe I am a hater, but a passive one...these cars will soon go away....a hater in the sense that I hate to see a beautiful car molested.
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Old 06-07-2015, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin S. View Post
So I really don't care enough about the Singer to be a "hater"; but this old saying comes to mind when I contemplate anyone spending $300,000 on this thing, "A fool and his money are soon parted."
I bet one would be hard pressed to build one to this level of detail and materials for less than the asking price.
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Old 06-08-2015, 04:25 PM
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Singers are great 911s. Who can doubt that. And Chris Walrod got a nice well-deserved plug in the Road & Track article. Well done, Chris!

But, as others have said, for $500K, you can get a true early 70s Carrera RS, which is not only the real deal, but a car that will only go up up up in value. Will a Singer? I don't know.

I would love to own a Singer. But at $500K it's not the car at the top of my list for that price point
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:12 PM
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Well I finally made it home and looked at the Road & Track cover again--"Chasing The Clock" etc etc etc.

Maybe I'm too dense to figure out anything else than the plain meaning of those words. (My wife who no longer gives a rat's *** about cars....or more importantly what now passes for sports car owners....looked at the cover and when I answered the "where" of Laguna her first question was how they modified it to be a race car. As in wheel-to-wheel competition against what I've driven there.)

That's about all I have to say. I can close the thread, but feel free to pile on.
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by race911 View Post
Well I finally made it home and looked at the Road & Track cover again--"Chasing The Clock" etc etc etc.


Maybe I'm too dense to figure out anything else than the plain meaning of those words. ---snip---
That's about all I have to say. I can close the thread, but feel free to pile on.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:24 AM
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I will say that the Singer owners I know already have a 73 RS. Already have a 73 or 74 RSR. Already have a 60s 911.

Already have a 964 RS or 964 Turbo S. Or both.

So when it gets to that point. A Singer makes a lot of since. A very nice very cool older 911 you can drive around every day and hoon in too!!

Most Singer owners don't say "well for 500k I could get a 73 RS instead".... Because they already have that.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:41 AM
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Flat Sex: Porsche 911 Reimagined by Singer‏

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ws&date=060815

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ws&date=060815

$390,000 for an ordinary 911 is absurd.
But this is no ordinary 911. It is a jewel box of history and myth, a sort of greatest-hits Porsche patterned after the car that everyone thinks they remember...




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Old 06-09-2015, 02:21 AM
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I think this is the link you meant to post. It is of the performance tests.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ned-by-singer/
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:38 AM
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Well Leh, how do you like it?
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nurburger View Post
Ilko - I'd be curious to know the color combination of the car you are referring to. I know that you live in NYC & you may have seen one of the very (very) early cars that was done prior to Aria's involvement.
The car I saw was light green with mint-ish green stripes and orange Porsche logos IIRC.

Again, no hate, just reporting my impressions. I encourage people to make up their own minds after they've actually seen a car in person.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:59 AM
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I loved it. It was a great drive and had the feeling of a great 911.

Plus it had no flaws. Held up to 2 days of beating like a champ. Well like a 911 should of course!

I am really I love with the details of the body but the best thing is the interior for me. They did an amazing job with that.

Plus all the guys were really cool and had a huge passion for the car. And Rob was awesome to hang with.

Everything had a great vibe and we had a ton of fun over the 2 days doing the tests. I really fell in love with the little car.

No way I could ever own one because of the price. But I do think they are worth it for the people that own. And Singer owners are very happy with their cars I can tell you that!!
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kingleh View Post
I think this is the link you meant to post. It is of the performance tests.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ned-by-singer/

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Old 06-10-2015, 12:10 AM
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Personally, love everything about Singer (other than their price point only because its unattainable ) What they are doing on the Porsche platform has caught like wildfire and there are a couple of companies going down that route with BMWs (http://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/Ar...ining-a-Legend) and Jags (the Jaguar Mk2 done for Ian Callum by Classic Motor Cars and now offered to other buyers). You'll note in the BMW link the creators admit having taken inspiration from Singer.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:51 AM
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Default I am still not convinced, convenient...

...., because I don't have that kind of money to spend. I am not bitter about this, it is what it is, as we say. I am noting that lots of the initial models are going to Dubai, etc....

I am a "leave the cars alone" kind of person. Example, the 73 RS? At it's zenith back in the day, 40 years ago, what a car. I had the opportunity to drive one in New Zealand about 10 years ago. When you drive one of these, own one of these, you own a piece of history. When you own a ????, I won't mention it's name, what do you really have at the end off the day? But it is what it is...it's a hacked up 964, albeit to a high level of detail.

Performance....the "whatever its called", is ensconced with a monster engine, or course it's going to perform.

Personally, for the money, I'll take a couple of GT3 cars, maybe 993 RS Club Sport...I need to sign off this post because I will never be convinced of its value. To me it will always be a poseur oil baron ride.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kingleh View Post
I will say that the Singer owners I know already have a 73 RS. Already have a 73 or 74 RSR. Already have a 60s 911.

Already have a 964 RS or 964 Turbo S. Or both.

So when it gets to that point. A Singer makes a lot of since. A very nice very cool older 911 you can drive around every day and hoon in too!!

Most Singer owners don't say "well for 500k I could get a 73 RS instead".... Because they already have that.
Oh please...and they all have $50,000 diamond encrusted Rolex watches...Singer owners you know, really. How many are there in the world? And you know a subset of these? My bull**** detector is going off. I am getting off this thread...it's just pissing me off.
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