993 non-S vs. 4S
#31
#32
I actually like that statement I made. It's stronger than my original. Of course I was only matching your intensity when I wrote that one. It was a poke at u (nobody else seems to care what i think and i dot even think anyone else is reading it) and it worked. And of course I don't mean it 100% literally...duh. If you're going to take my words literally, then u have to take them ALL literally. You can't pick and choose like a pmsing girlfriend.
I'm almost flattered that someone's taken the time to try to pick me apart. But u suck at it.
#33
Rennlist Member
I'll compare notes with anyone on any/all differences in track driving between what I've observed with my two, same day/track/more-or-less tires. The AWD car being worn-out stock, the RWD being about as far developed as anyone here has in an arguably street legal variant. Know what? It's about 4 sec/min. lap time, and near zero difference in driving style. Data backs this up with an overall universal dip pretty much everywhere on my measuring track, Thunderhill.
#34
#35
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
I've tried to get myself to buy sight unseen based on a PPI and have never pulled the trigger.
Paying 993 prices for a ~17 year old car that is slow compared to current sports cars, will have some wear and tear and require some reconditioning is an emotional buy.
For me I wanted that aircooled bucket of bolts engine sound in a WB.
Buy what you like and what you can afford.
Paying 993 prices for a ~17 year old car that is slow compared to current sports cars, will have some wear and tear and require some reconditioning is an emotional buy.
For me I wanted that aircooled bucket of bolts engine sound in a WB.
Buy what you like and what you can afford.
Sounds like I may have to pass on both...and keep searching!
#36
Drifting
I don't know if it was mentioned, but you should get one in better condition and that was taken better care off. In my case I found C4S with 70k miles. For 15k less I would be looking at 80k miles convertible. As long as you don't overpay for the S, you will recoup the premium on the resale.
#37
Drifting
And as far as performance, tell me with straight face that if you found "S" car and identical C2, you would not get the "S" because it has "inferior" performance.
I surely would not consider 4S to be a status car (yes ,I drive one), it's just better looking than C2, in my subjective opinion.
#38
Burning Brakes
Follow the old adage, per Bruce Anderson ( R.I.P.), buy the best car that you can afford (and like). Don't worry about what everyone else has. If "investment" is your criteria, put the car up on jack stands, cover it up, and wait ten years, then sell at a profit.......... or "just drive it"! Today's status symbol is tomorrow's used car; more affordable for the rest of us........
#39
hahaha....that's like saying that the C2 is poor's man 911, because he/she can't afford any other 911 (due to high price or high maintenance).
And as far as performance, tell me with straight face that if you found "S" car and identical C2, you would not get the "S" because it has "inferior" performance.
And as far as performance, tell me with straight face that if you found "S" car and identical C2, you would not get the "S" because it has "inferior" performance.
Welcome to the Porsche hierarchy. Guy who bought a Cayman did so because he couldn't afford a 911, base Boxster owner gets shat on by everybody...etc etc. It's a stigma I know. I'm not saying it's right. But only one thing is for sure, when you buy a Porsche, you are ALWAYS judged by someone, one way or the other.
Does the C2 come with $15k in cash in the glovebox?
#41
Drifting
#42
His is a lame attempt at "Justification Theater". There's always haters when they can't play the game.
As for the $15K in the glove box? Since the S cars command a premium and appreciate faster, it'll turn in to at least $20K when it comes to sell.
Thanks for playing
#43
I have a 993 c4s and the only reason I chose it over the c2/4 variants is because of looks. That's it. I think the 993 is the last iconic Porcshe ( my take) and that the 993 is the epitomy of the classic Porsche coke bottle style. Discussions over status ( had a laugh there given the price point) and performance differences between a wb and nb models are exercises in futility.
#44
Drifting
I personally never understood Porsche putting an "S" next to the name without adding MORE power/performance. So I say if you're going to buy a wide body, made it a Turbo!
Also, notice how 997 and 991 "S" has more power. Porsche finally got it right and THAT is what S should stand for. Save the cash, go with the "Carrera" and don't look back! Just make sure you get a leak down and compression test!!
Good luck and keep us posted!
Also, notice how 997 and 991 "S" has more power. Porsche finally got it right and THAT is what S should stand for. Save the cash, go with the "Carrera" and don't look back! Just make sure you get a leak down and compression test!!
Good luck and keep us posted!