To fix the “Fiske”, or not to “fix” the Fiske?
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Hi Everyone,
I am new the 993 board having come from another area on the Rennlist forums. A few weeks back I purchased a nicely track prepped 993 from a fellow Rennlister ("jakp993", a great gent to deal with). The car has plenty of nice track focused mods:
Full fresh engine rebuild using the stock 3.6 pistons and cylinders: All bearings, seals, guides, etc, GT3 crank, GT3 oil pump, Pauter connecting rods, new valves, RSR valve vprings, Titanium retainers, Custom single pulley/drive belt system for GT3 crank, Balanced assembly, Solid motor mounts, GIAC chip, AWE straight pipes through OEM cats and Dual oil cooler upgrade
Full Transmission rebuild: short gears 3rd - 6th, Upgraded steel synchos, Quaife LSD, Solid tranny mounts
Suspension: Moton Club Sport dual adjustable dampers with remote reservoirs, GT2 uprights, RSR sway bars, ERP adjustable camber links, Camber plates, all rubber bushings replaced with solid/spherical/monoball
Brakes: 993 turbo brakes up front, OEM rear brakes with portioning valve addition and Hawk HT-10 pads
Body and interior: Custom welded cage (PCA club race spec), Recaro Hans driver seat, Sparco Evo II passenger seat, Teamtech harnesses, Rennline aluminum floorboards, removable Momo streering wheel, CS Aero kit, 2700 lbs dry.
She’s pretty rough on the outside (nasty track rash on the front end noticeable from under 20 ft – this will be attended to shortly) but has all original panels, and has never been crashed……..and now she’s all mine.
The car was mechanically perfect in every way as a super thorough pre-track inspection was done. Unfortunately, one of the rear Fiske Mach V wheels showed signs of stress cracking and I did not get the chance to give it an easy shakedown run at Spring Mountain Motorsport Ranch recently. So I am left with what to do with this Fiske Wheel set (18x8et52, 18x10et65):
1) fix the center at a cost of $565 from Fiske
2) fix both rear centers for additional peace of mind at double the cost
3) Or sell off the good wheels and parts to someone who needs them, or to someone who wants to refresh the rears wheels to make a set
At this point I am torn because the styling of the wheels is not precisely to my taste, so any suggestions or interest would be welcomed. Also, the generous previous owner who honestly did not know about the cracked center is sending me a set of 18” OEM Turbo Twists (a true gentleman indeed!). I did check with Thatcher at Independent Wheel to see if he had any used centers with no luck.
Cheers!
Doug N
I am new the 993 board having come from another area on the Rennlist forums. A few weeks back I purchased a nicely track prepped 993 from a fellow Rennlister ("jakp993", a great gent to deal with). The car has plenty of nice track focused mods:
Full fresh engine rebuild using the stock 3.6 pistons and cylinders: All bearings, seals, guides, etc, GT3 crank, GT3 oil pump, Pauter connecting rods, new valves, RSR valve vprings, Titanium retainers, Custom single pulley/drive belt system for GT3 crank, Balanced assembly, Solid motor mounts, GIAC chip, AWE straight pipes through OEM cats and Dual oil cooler upgrade
Full Transmission rebuild: short gears 3rd - 6th, Upgraded steel synchos, Quaife LSD, Solid tranny mounts
Suspension: Moton Club Sport dual adjustable dampers with remote reservoirs, GT2 uprights, RSR sway bars, ERP adjustable camber links, Camber plates, all rubber bushings replaced with solid/spherical/monoball
Brakes: 993 turbo brakes up front, OEM rear brakes with portioning valve addition and Hawk HT-10 pads
Body and interior: Custom welded cage (PCA club race spec), Recaro Hans driver seat, Sparco Evo II passenger seat, Teamtech harnesses, Rennline aluminum floorboards, removable Momo streering wheel, CS Aero kit, 2700 lbs dry.
She’s pretty rough on the outside (nasty track rash on the front end noticeable from under 20 ft – this will be attended to shortly) but has all original panels, and has never been crashed……..and now she’s all mine.
The car was mechanically perfect in every way as a super thorough pre-track inspection was done. Unfortunately, one of the rear Fiske Mach V wheels showed signs of stress cracking and I did not get the chance to give it an easy shakedown run at Spring Mountain Motorsport Ranch recently. So I am left with what to do with this Fiske Wheel set (18x8et52, 18x10et65):
1) fix the center at a cost of $565 from Fiske
2) fix both rear centers for additional peace of mind at double the cost
3) Or sell off the good wheels and parts to someone who needs them, or to someone who wants to refresh the rears wheels to make a set
At this point I am torn because the styling of the wheels is not precisely to my taste, so any suggestions or interest would be welcomed. Also, the generous previous owner who honestly did not know about the cracked center is sending me a set of 18” OEM Turbo Twists (a true gentleman indeed!). I did check with Thatcher at Independent Wheel to see if he had any used centers with no luck.
Cheers!
Doug N
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The styling is not to your taste, so it will be a little sore spot every time you look at the car. Sell the Fikses, and get what you want, and no worries with questionable wheels.
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Interesting Dilemma....
I have two good FM10 centers with bent barrels.... My plan was to someday rebuild them into new rear wheels, but cost has held me back so they have just been siting on a shelf...
1) When you say the Mach 5 is not to your liking, do you like the FM10? If so, would you like to talk buying my FM10 centers (at least that would get you 2 of them)
or
2) If you are thinking going something completely different, would you consider selling me 2 of your barrels ?
Jeff
I have two good FM10 centers with bent barrels.... My plan was to someday rebuild them into new rear wheels, but cost has held me back so they have just been siting on a shelf...
1) When you say the Mach 5 is not to your liking, do you like the FM10? If so, would you like to talk buying my FM10 centers (at least that would get you 2 of them)
or
2) If you are thinking going something completely different, would you consider selling me 2 of your barrels ?
Jeff
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Stellar advice from Mark & Kai.
I'd strongly advise replacing any cracked centers (I would Zylow all of them) and then make a decision about whether to keep them or not. You'll will get excellent cost recovery if you do.
I'd strongly advise replacing any cracked centers (I would Zylow all of them) and then make a decision about whether to keep them or not. You'll will get excellent cost recovery if you do.
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I may have some other plans in light of the bodies cosmetics......that would require WIDER wheels (if you know what I mean). ![thumbsup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigok.gif)
If I were to keep them....absolutely safety first, replace both centers and rebuild.
Precisely!
Hi Carm, I hope your are doing well!.....no I didn't drive it at all on the track...."I did not get the chance to give it an easy shakedown run at Spring Mountain Motorsport Ranch recently"..........so it was a bit disappointing, but I did take it for a 5 minute run around the block at 2 tenths....just to get the idea. I like! I will keep you posted but won't be back in Las Vegas until midSeptember......
Hi Jeff!
I like both of your ideas, and thinking outside the box.........but as you said for Option 1, I'd only have 2 FM-10 centers.
PM me and we can discuss the possibility of separating the rear barrels from the rears......the previous owner noted that all of the rim halves are in excellent shape as they were replaced under warranty. Also, you may want a selection of additional parts too for any future rebuilds, you can take your pick.
Cheers!
Doug N
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Interesting Dilemma....
I have two good FM10 centers with bent barrels.... My plan was to someday rebuild them into new rear wheels, but cost has held me back so they have just been siting on a shelf...
1) When you say the Mach 5 is not to your liking, do you like the FM10? If so, would you like to talk buying my FM10 centers (at least that would get you 2 of them)
or
2) If you are thinking going something completely different, would you consider selling me 2 of your barrels ?
Jeff
I have two good FM10 centers with bent barrels.... My plan was to someday rebuild them into new rear wheels, but cost has held me back so they have just been siting on a shelf...
1) When you say the Mach 5 is not to your liking, do you like the FM10? If so, would you like to talk buying my FM10 centers (at least that would get you 2 of them)
or
2) If you are thinking going something completely different, would you consider selling me 2 of your barrels ?
Jeff
I like both of your ideas, and thinking outside the box.........but as you said for Option 1, I'd only have 2 FM-10 centers.
PM me and we can discuss the possibility of separating the rear barrels from the rears......the previous owner noted that all of the rim halves are in excellent shape as they were replaced under warranty. Also, you may want a selection of additional parts too for any future rebuilds, you can take your pick.
Cheers!
Doug N
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Agreed.....yes I would (if keeping or selling as a set) replace both rear centers, even though only one is showing stress cracks. "Safely First" as KaiB said.
What is "Zylow"? I am not familar with the term, I assume a machine process for strengthening, or method of testing for flaws. Please explain if you have a moment.
What is a set of 993 nb 18" Fiske's worth rebuilt to very good/Excellent condition?
Cheers!
Doug N
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FYI, I have a set of FM-10 race satin center/polished lip 8x18, 10x18 wheels that have only three DE track sessions on them. I bought them new. I've been thinking of selling them but wanted to market them locally first. It's been on my to-do list for the past six months. Looking to get $2,700 plus shipping for them. PM me for more details if interested.
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JMHO, but a set of excellent repaired wheels is worth a lot more than ones that need new components, or as individual parts.
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Zyglow is a process for crack detection in non-ferrous metals. Parts are sprayed (or coated) with a special dye, then illuminated with a UV lamp which will show cracks.
Such wheels with new centers and excellent rim halves should bring at least $2500.
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If you want to keep them, you should contact Fikse, mentioning the following:
There are several threads on Pelican (maybe here too) of HRE repairing (replacing parts) wheels at no cost. Of course, HRE would only repair HRE wheels, but still.
Or, contact user Thatcher. He hoards multipiece wheel parts. He's basically a multipiece wheel dealer, LOL.
Take care,
There are several threads on Pelican (maybe here too) of HRE repairing (replacing parts) wheels at no cost. Of course, HRE would only repair HRE wheels, but still.
Or, contact user Thatcher. He hoards multipiece wheel parts. He's basically a multipiece wheel dealer, LOL.
Take care,
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Lots of good advice here. I would pay $3000 for a good set if I could find them locally.
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If you want to keep them, you should contact Fikse, mentioning the following:
There are several threads on Pelican (maybe here too) of HRE repairing (replacing parts) wheels at no cost. Of course, HRE would only repair HRE wheels, but still.
Or, contact user Thatcher. He hoards multipiece wheel parts. He's basically a multipiece wheel dealer, LOL.
Take care,
There are several threads on Pelican (maybe here too) of HRE repairing (replacing parts) wheels at no cost. Of course, HRE would only repair HRE wheels, but still.
Or, contact user Thatcher. He hoards multipiece wheel parts. He's basically a multipiece wheel dealer, LOL.
Take care,
Interesting to get a feel for demand and values, thanks Carm!