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Old 02-12-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
Talk about dead!

Do you have a cigarette lighter with wire ending in bare ends that you can connect the probes of a Digital Multimeter to. Twist the wire around the probe end and finish off with electrical tape.

Go for a drive. What does the voltmeter indicate now? Maybe your alternator is gone.

Of course charging up the battery by itself and when fully charged (assuming it'll take one), and then doing a simple load test will tell all.
I was able to slowvcharge the battery by itself last night to about 13.5V, enough to start the car. I think I could've charged it more but ran out of time. By morning though it had dropped to about 12V. I had to hop on a plane early this morning so I'll recharge the battery when I get home Friday and go for a drive with voltmeter connected as you suggest. I'll do a load test as well. Question: would a bad battery take a charge and then quickly lose it?
Old 02-12-2013, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MACH993
I was able to slowvcharge the battery by itself last night to about 13.5V, enough to start the car. I think I could've charged it more but ran out of time. By morning though it had dropped to about 12V. I had to hop on a plane early this morning so I'll recharge the battery when I get home Friday and go for a drive with voltmeter connected as you suggest. I'll do a load test as well. Question: would a bad battery take a charge and then quickly lose it?
Yes, a symptom of a bad battery is its inability to hold a charge. Another possible, but less likely cause is a constant drain on the battery... a light on due to a faulty switch, or some such.
Old 02-12-2013, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NP993
Thanks - already did full charge and had a battry specialist do a load test. Unless the battery test was wrong it's not the battery.
Twice in the past 5 yrs. I've had batteries that I thought were bad, charged them and had them tested at the local Interstate Battery Dist. center. They said the batteries were fine (load test ect.) but they continued to give me problems. Within weeks I replaced the batteries and had no further problems.

I had checked the charging circuit myself previously on both vehicles and they were charging fine. I don't place a lot of faith in their load tests anymore.
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Originally Posted by MACH993
Question: would a bad battery take a charge and then quickly lose it?
It may or may not not take a full charge. And it may or may not lose its charge quickly. Any scenario is possible.

As for a load test being useless, its only one of the more important tests, but not the be all and end all. I've tested batteries that passed a load test, but only had 25% of their rated capacity. A battery's ability to start a vehicle (low internal resistance...a load test) is most important, whether it can keep your radio going for 48 hours (capacity) while parked is less important.
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I went through 3 Bosch Reman's in about 4 months. Finally got a good one.
Old 02-12-2013, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
It may or may not not take a full charge. And it may or may not lose its charge quickly. Any scenario is possible.

As for a load test being useless, its only one of the more important tests, but not the be all and end all. I've tested batteries that passed a load test, but only had 25% of their rated capacity. A battery's ability to start a vehicle (low internal resistance...a load test) is most important, whether it can keep your radio going for 48 hours (capacity) while parked is less important.
Won't the load test tell me if I have a parasitic drain or should I only bother if the battery holds the charge at cranking power? I assume a bad battery that's just been charged will show a drain under load just because it's not holding the charge anyway.
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Originally Posted by MACH993
Won't the load test tell me if I have a parasitic drain or should I only bother if the battery holds the charge at cranking power? I assume a bad battery that's just been charged will show a drain under load just because it's not holding the charge anyway.
You have a PM with one hell of a long winded explanation of drains and capacity. Phew!



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