Clutch replacement cost!
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I just bought a 96 993 C4S with 27k (pictures to be posted soon) - The clutch is hard but thats about it - My mechanic said I needed a new clutch and quoted $4k. I think I will stick to the hard clutch until there are more signs. Thoughts out there on the hard clutch situation?
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That certainly isn't right. It may be best to look into that before you get a failure you don't plan on, when it's most incovenient or unsafe.
#20
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I just paid $2800 for an Indy here in Tampa to change my pressure plate, clutch disk, guide tube, fork, throw out bearing, pivot shaft, hose, etc...basically everything behind the flywheel.
#21
I was recently doing some pricing on replacing the clutch in my C4S and was told they not only had to drop the engine but the rear suspension too. Is this added time and cost really required to change the clutch in the all wheel drive 993?
#22
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You can also do it by removing the front differential and torque tube and then the transmission. I went that route to see if it works. I think dropping the engine and transmission together is probably just as much work but you get the benefit of resealing the chain cases and other area prone to leaking if that is an issue for you.
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My 95 993 C2 is approaching 92K miles without the least hint of the need for a new clutch. This may be due to the fact that 60-70% of its life has been spent on the interstate. However, I am beginning to use it more for stop-and-go in town driving so I am paying more attention to any changes in behavior.
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The PO of my car had the clutch replaced this year at just under 63k miles. He payed $4950 at Aurel & Don's in North Hollywood, this included the standard clutch and dual mass flywheel as well as the clutch master cylinder and the clutch slave cylinder.
#27
Now for my two cents. When you need a clutch is dependant upon driver ability (was the first owner just learning?), location (a car driven on the LIE everyday vs. I95), and model. I would say with my 16 years of experience the average is around 35,000 miles for cars driven here in NYC. The most I have ever seen in proper working condition has been 70,000. Note also the flywheel is a huge cost and does not always need to be changed. Ask your indy if they can recondition it for you. That would be a saving of around 1100. A clutch replacement on a 993 C4S with a flywheel, release bearing and so forth from a experienced shop should be no more than 3000 and with that you should be recieving an overall check up, oil/filter change, and seals. We always change the oil/filter since the smaller of the two is very rarely changed by shops with less experience. We therefore take the opportunity to ensure it is new.
Note: Any pricing is current to market and can/will change knowing Porsche :-) Also note that your dealer/indy may or may not be changing the hardware, and making other smaller repair within the price they are giving.
Michael
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Note: Any pricing is current to market and can/will change knowing Porsche :-) Also note that your dealer/indy may or may not be changing the hardware, and making other smaller repair within the price they are giving.
Michael
Formula Motorsports
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Is an exploding dmf an actual possibility?
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I can't say I've heard that happening with a 993, but I have heard of the DMF exploding on the SVT Ford Focus and first Gen Mini Cooper S (Both used the same 6 speed Getrag gearbox). I will add that NONE of those instances I've read about happened when just casually driving to the grocery store.
#30
the shop that did the work on my car didn't have a clue what might happen to a failed dmf, couldn't even say for sure that the issue was the dmf. at idle my car sounded like it had very aggressive cams, like every few seconds it was going to die and then it would catch again, poor thing would shake all over.
I ask 3 different porsche shop mechanics and got
-dmf was designed to not explode if it failed so don't worry
-dmf's do fail and if you try to play on track with it bad things might happen
-if the dmf has separated you can drive it but you risk throwing pieces through the case
bottom line for me was pay now or risk paying a whole bunch more money later.
when it was taken apart you could turn the 2 big parts of the flywheel opposite directions a little more than an inch. the theory was it kept catching itself and jumping ahead causing the rough idle.
I don't know for sure cause I've never tried it with a new dmf. but in the end the problem was fixed by replacing it.
I ask 3 different porsche shop mechanics and got
-dmf was designed to not explode if it failed so don't worry
-dmf's do fail and if you try to play on track with it bad things might happen
-if the dmf has separated you can drive it but you risk throwing pieces through the case
bottom line for me was pay now or risk paying a whole bunch more money later.
when it was taken apart you could turn the 2 big parts of the flywheel opposite directions a little more than an inch. the theory was it kept catching itself and jumping ahead causing the rough idle.
I don't know for sure cause I've never tried it with a new dmf. but in the end the problem was fixed by replacing it.