Mark in Baltimore

I wanted to quote my post to eliminate the pervasive reading comprehension issues that seems to have befallen Rennlist. Please note that I didn't say all of the published times. When I joined this board many years ago, the Car & Driver test of the first, non-varioram 993 was held as the performance paradigm for the model. I do believe Car & Driver counts as a publication.


Car & Driver, June 1994.

Do I want to rethink my opinion of varioram for the track? Not really. On the track, stock 993's spend most of their time at or "below" redline. It's generally understood that VR has little benefit on the track, but I'm willing to keep my mind open by data that's offered by someone who knows how to actually drive a car and can interpret track data. If you can show me someone who has done a back-to-back test of the same car equipped with and without varioram as being faster on a given track with varioram, then, sure, I'll gladly rethink my position.

Bill was referring to the varioram's effect on track cars and made that point really quite clear. Not sure why you feel the need to attempt to transmogrify the direction of his post.

What part of 0-60 in 4.7 seconds as the fastest published time for a non-varioram 993 are you not getting?

77'3.6vram

If you think a stock TT can pull a 0 to 60 time in 3.7seconds your wrong. Try to stick with publications that deal with Porsche's exclusively.Excellence ,911&Porsche World or GTPorsche.

77'3.6vram

If you think any production NA 993 can pull a 4.7 your wrong.

goofballdeluxe

Or "you're wrong" :roflmao"

77'3.6vram

American Car Mags need to publish ridiculous numbers in order to sell more copies.Are you going to contest that fact?

goofballdeluxe

I just want to make sure that in between modifying 5 Porsches, you can spell at a 5th grade level so your arguments will carry more weight

77'3.6vram

It's not an argument.It's a fact.You clearly are clueless regarding the Auto Mag business in the states.Are you sure your not from up north?

Ed Hughes

That is the post of the day!

ashirji

What has happened to this board as of late? Someone posts a question asking about what year 993 is best for his particular (CA) application, and folks have turned this into a pecker contest. RL is far better than this- We all just saw how our commmunity pulled together for our brother Chuck. I am a member of several boards of several makes, and I only pay for membership for two. RL is one of them, as I believe the information, the cars, and the folks here are worth the privilege.

Falcondrivr

Buy the car with the best maintenance and condition. Porsches are designed to perform well at the real track, not the drag strip. If 0-60 times are what's important to you, don't buy a Porsche. Lots and lots of cars are faster in that measurement. Go get a Viper or something, it will suit your personality better. Or better yet, go stand at the red light and just show other drivers how big your package is...
Vram would be nice to have. But 99% of the time driving around town, you're not going to feel it. (Only comes into play at close to full throttle.) At a track like Sebring, you might get a little boost over a non-vram car coming out of 13 and maybe 16 (seems to be where I'm short on gearing,) but I've yet to have one pull on me.

77'3.6vram

It must really bother you guys that I can afford my hobby with Dyslexia. Why else would you all continue bullying me about spelling and grammar.They both clearly understand what I am writing.Their jealousy is obvious.

Ed Hughes

That is definitely the path I took, but if all things were equal, I'd have opted for the '95.

If nothing other than to avoid "vram".

Edward

The only "bullying" that is going on here is yours.

The retorts you are currently facing are due only as reaction to your inability to accept objective data published by multiple sources. Yet you doggedly (that's being polite) insist you are "right." Then follow that up with others here are wrong. And in this stubbord vein, you "call out" a member here (yes, that's bullying), then collectively dismiss publications that somehow do not meet your personal criteria of accuracy. Throwing in a wonderful indictment that "American mags" have no credibility.

And what have you produced? Facts? Data? Anything beyond your boisterous behavior couched in the childish "oh yeah?" tone? No. You've provided nothing substantive or otherwise worth discussing. And now that you've painted yourself into the corner of your own making, you lash back taking the victim's role. Nice ...truly the behavior of the one unwilling to accept the responsibility of one's own words and actions.

It is you who have no credibility, but I don't need to demonstrate that: your words and responses have accomplished that perfectly well. You were afforded many opportunities that I can see on this thread to avoid the pitfall you were creating for yourself, but alas, your Pride has done you in.

May I take this moment to personally Thank You all here who have tried to exercise patience and inclusion, despite the landmines sown here. This board still is the excellent board it was years ago, IMHO. If anything, it reminds me to never let the actions of one errant individual taint what is, on the whole, a community of kind, generous, and smart enthusiasts. To Chris Walrod's signature line:


...and now, cordially moving on, friends
Edward

John D.

Is there any reason that every gawd damned time I read a new post in a thread where someone can't articulate without flaming - I see your name and posting the flame bait?

As for 0-60 times - hell if I know. My '95 993 C4 moves right along. On the street or the track...

Have a nice day...

John D.

77'3.6vram

I am the only one to post actual quotes from Porsches own Press Kits regarding the VRAM intake system. The 18% gain in midrange power from 2500RPM is what? My speculation?Read the whole post before you open your mouth.