To be or not to be...concerns I have after having a test drive - should I commit?
#16
Drifting
Just to add a little regarding squeeks, the windshields commonly do this due to flexing of the rubber seal. It's not a big deal, just annoying. Of course another likely culprit could well be the suspension.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#17
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thanks guys. Regarding the odometer 80k km is an approximate figure said by the seller. So yes that'd be an area of concern.
Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
Powerup: yes I have checked 28car from time to time. Seriously not having owned a 993 before it's hard for me as an "outsider" to find out where are the good ones on sale. Sounds like u r in Hk too, right? If so I'd be most grateful if u can share Ur views on sources to which well kept 993s can be found.
Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
Powerup: yes I have checked 28car from time to time. Seriously not having owned a 993 before it's hard for me as an "outsider" to find out where are the good ones on sale. Sounds like u r in Hk too, right? If so I'd be most grateful if u can share Ur views on sources to which well kept 993s can be found.
#18
Thanks guys. Regarding the odometer 80k km is an approximate figure said by the seller. So yes that'd be an area of concern.
Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
Powerup: yes I have checked 28car from time to time. Seriously not having owned a 993 before it's hard for me as an "outsider" to find out where are the good ones on sale. Sounds like u r in Hk too, right? If so I'd be most grateful if u can share Ur views on sources to which well kept 993s can be found.
Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
Powerup: yes I have checked 28car from time to time. Seriously not having owned a 993 before it's hard for me as an "outsider" to find out where are the good ones on sale. Sounds like u r in Hk too, right? If so I'd be most grateful if u can share Ur views on sources to which well kept 993s can be found.
BTW, I pm you.
#19
Thanks guys. Regarding the odometer 80k km is an approximate figure said by the seller. So yes that'd be an area of concern.
Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
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Seller bought it after the first owner has rebuilt the engine and air con in 2008. He has 4 cars hence this 993 is only driven on weekends and occasionally on weekdays.
Just got a reply from him and he appears eager to show the records to me on coming Friday night. Even driving over to show them to me. Hmm.
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#20
Instructor
Thread Starter
Seller lives on HK island side and works in Tsuen Wan so there's a remote possibility....but well seeing the responses from you guys in a way actually freshened my brain and I am somewhat hesitant to even go check the records.
Also sorry for not bringing this up earlier and I recall that when I had the test drive, the steering wheel actually had some slight movements both to sideways and a bit up and down. I had test drives of other 993s and my understanding is that they tend to wobble a bit when u drive them...is that normal?
Also sorry for not bringing this up earlier and I recall that when I had the test drive, the steering wheel actually had some slight movements both to sideways and a bit up and down. I had test drives of other 993s and my understanding is that they tend to wobble a bit when u drive them...is that normal?
#21
Could be bad/worn steering rack (check for leaks) or worn control arm bushings (can be replaced by Walrod bushing or ERPs) or bad tie rods. FYI, the standard repair for worn control arm bushings is to replace the entire control arm as Porsche does not sell just the bushings...this is what Jebsens will tell you to do! Otherwise you can go with aftermarket bushings (I went with Walrod PU bushings instead)...more labor cost but overall much lower all-in cost vs replacing entire arm. The up and down part doesn't sound good though.
Last edited by David in LA; 05-24-2012 at 03:29 AM.
#23
Pro
Hi There
I am in HK and do not mind seeing the car at the weekend if you like. I know these cars pretty well. Why was the engine rebuilt and who rebuilt it. What documentation is there about the rebuild?
These cars will benefit from a suspension refresh if it has not been done by now. The rack shoud be fine, but as mentioned the tie rods and bushes may not be.
Do not rush into buying this car without a lot of further investigation.
All the best
Berni
I am in HK and do not mind seeing the car at the weekend if you like. I know these cars pretty well. Why was the engine rebuilt and who rebuilt it. What documentation is there about the rebuild?
These cars will benefit from a suspension refresh if it has not been done by now. The rack shoud be fine, but as mentioned the tie rods and bushes may not be.
Do not rush into buying this car without a lot of further investigation.
All the best
Berni
#24
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thanks Berni. The engine was rebuilt by the first owner in 2008 and the seller bought it coz everything was fixed back then. Seller also said that everything is stock which is actually a bit of a concern to me - if everything is stock that may possibly mean some stuff which should have been replaced or changed (say bushings, shocks etc) are still on the car. Again this highlights the importance of full records.
Condition is key, whilst no. of owners and mileage are just preferred bonuses....
Still trying to see when is a good time to meet seller again. He seems quite eager to sell as he would like to order another car. Food for thought...
Will let u know if I need your help Berni, but thanks v much in advance
Condition is key, whilst no. of owners and mileage are just preferred bonuses....
Still trying to see when is a good time to meet seller again. He seems quite eager to sell as he would like to order another car. Food for thought...
Will let u know if I need your help Berni, but thanks v much in advance
Hi There
I am in HK and do not mind seeing the car at the weekend if you like. I know these cars pretty well. Why was the engine rebuilt and who rebuilt it. What documentation is there about the rebuild?
These cars will benefit from a suspension refresh if it has not been done by now. The rack shoud be fine, but as mentioned the tie rods and bushes may not be.
Do not rush into buying this car without a lot of further investigation.
All the best
Berni
I am in HK and do not mind seeing the car at the weekend if you like. I know these cars pretty well. Why was the engine rebuilt and who rebuilt it. What documentation is there about the rebuild?
These cars will benefit from a suspension refresh if it has not been done by now. The rack shoud be fine, but as mentioned the tie rods and bushes may not be.
Do not rush into buying this car without a lot of further investigation.
All the best
Berni
#25
Instructor
Thread Starter
Interesting development. After sending a follow up email reminding seller to bring ALL of the records he has, he then replied saying the other potential buyer has upped the offer and seller's wife is eager to see the sale done. Seller asked me for my price range but I said its a chicken and egg situation and I wouldn't be able to give a gd estimate without seeing the records. Intuition tells me to pass and I did.
Thanks for all the responses though.
Thanks for all the responses though.
#26
Rennlist Member
Keep in mind that it is also the oldest sales tactic in the book to tell a prospective buyer that there is another sale in the works so you will feel pressured to buy without completing your homework.
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Take it to Road and track for a PPI. They know these cars back to front. You can always give a range subject to a clean PPI. that way you buy yourself some time. If your range is too low anyway, then so be it and focus on another one.
Good luck!
Good luck!