serval

Hello,

I am thinking of installing two subwoofers firing towards the driver, in the space behind the rear seat backs (would fold them down).

Does anyone know how much space is there before I hit the firewall?

Thanks

Vorsicht

About an inch if you're lucky (but only if you remove the rear deck). Most put them on the floor/seats in custom enclosures or in the door.

EMBPilot

with the right gear you might not need subs tossed in the back...
check out Jehnert's website. if you want to upgrade your audio they make custom packages for our cars, when they are installed properly, look OE. they have really nice products, i believe they work closely with BMW Porsche and Mercedes. If you installed XE200's in custom panels, you really wouldnt need a sub.

for me, the Fister II's is all the music i'll ever need
i love a great sounding stereo, but i cant imagine listening to anything other than the engine and exhaust in my 993 lol!

http://www.jehnert.de/produkte-doorb...che?lang=en_us

911Jeff

1996 cabrio

CAHRERA

Do a search........Subwoofers or Car Audio Innovations.

serval

I love the sound of the engine too, and Fister IIIs are on my list, but I'm not always alone . I'm also familiar with Rod's CAI sub enclosures, but I want something more subtle. I was also thinking of a shallow mount sub mounted in the back of the fold down rear seats complemeted by a notched area in the fire-wall padding. May just have enough room. Something like this JL unit

Kika

Subwoofer technology has improved over the years, with many manufacturers making "slim" designs. Pioneer also makes a slim subwoofer. I had a JL audio sub in my previous 911. JL Audio makes good stuff.

I would be interested in knowing what you do and how it sounds.

David in LA

The best sub install I've seen was in an older 911. The sub was in the passenger footwell tucked up agains the firewall and pressed up back under the dash. The owner told me the shop made a mold of the underside of the dash and made the enclosure using fiberglass.

ble2011

I have to ask, are you sure you need a sub? My 993 came from the previous owner with an Alpine deck, Alpine amp and JL Audio separates in the doors. When I turn it up, it's unbelievably loud with no distortion. With the bass pounding so hard, my doors review mirrors are unusable because of the pounding. And this bass is from what I believe are 5 1/4" in the doors. The only reason I'm think of changing it is because at low volumes, it doesn't sound that great.

Kika

I had an 8" JL Audio Subwoofer in my 911SC.

In the 993 I have Oz Audio Matrix Audio Elite component speakers (the original ones, not the cheaper last generation ones), I believe the mid/woofer is 6 1/2". Driven by a Lunar 2125, 125 watts per channel. I get as much bass from my current set up as my SC had. Certainly a true Sub would get even lower, but I don't feel I need it.

While there is no way to truly replace a subwoofer, good speakers and a good amp can get you darn close.

serval

Thank you all for the advice. My plan is to keep it simple and do the following:

2 Audison amps in the front - one 4 channel to power the tweeter / mid-range separates, one two channel for the subs

Pioneer DEX99-RS headunit - allows to set cross-over points right atthe deck for all 6 channels. Plus this is the only audio amp (other than the McIntosh amp) that I think fits the aesthetics of the 993 perfectly

Focal K2 separates tweeter / midrange

2 Alpine SWR - T10 - 10" low profile subs requiring .35 cubic feet sealed box - how small is that ?

Ble2011, I will hazard the following guess: the reason your doors are vibrating is because you are "feeding" low frequency waves (bass waves) to a midrange driver. The reason why the door buzzes ans shakes is because the bass waves energy succeed in flexing the enclosure, in this case your door.

That is why, subs are usually enclosed in reflex-free mdf boxes. Plus, using separates allows me to set cross overpoints such that each driver (speaker) receives the frequency range that it is meant to reproduce, segmented by highs, medium, and lows accross the tweeter, midrange and sub drivers.

I am not looking for boomy bass or spl records; I just want a system that will come somewhat close to my home system.

I will start this project in about 6 weeks - doing research on correct wiring and placement for now. I will document with pictures and post at that time.

KMASS993

911Jeff -

Where did you get your mat for the RSD? I am in need of one of those for mine as my dog pops up there (loves to stand and stick his head out the window)

Madridcab

I put a small powered sw under the passenger seat, whe not audiophile standard, fill in the bass nicely

Kika

I believe the Audison SR line is made in China, just as an FYI. I think only their high end line is still manufactured in Italy.

serval

Thanks for the tip Kika - good to know