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Old 09-07-2011, 12:20 PM
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+1 on post #6. I've owned both. But I'd be hard pressed to upgrade from my 993.
Old 09-08-2011, 04:04 AM
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I've been through a 993, 996, 911 and back to a 993.

For me it's the air cooled engine first and foremost. I sold my 993 to purchase a 996 because I wanted more creature comforts. In the end I wound up with a luxury car with a high performance engine (I say that with the utmost respect as I really did enjoy my 996 Targa).

I currently own an '88 911 and the 993. For me the 993 is the best car Porsche made. I love the sound of it, the rawness and, best of all, the curves. There just isn't anything like it. I know the water cooled variants are faster and have many more of the things we expect in a modern car, but for me it's the sound and rawness that the car delivers.
Old 09-08-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chammond
I've been through a 993, 996, 911 and back to a 993.

For me it's the air cooled engine first and foremost. I sold my 993 to purchase a 996 because I wanted more creature comforts. In the end I wound up with a luxury car with a high performance engine (I say that with the utmost respect as I really did enjoy my 996 Targa).

I currently own an '88 911 and the 993. For me the 993 is the best car Porsche made. I love the sound of it, the rawness and, best of all, the curves. There just isn't anything like it. I know the water cooled variants are faster and have many more of the things we expect in a modern car, but for me it's the sound and rawness that the car delivers.
Well said.


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Old 09-08-2011, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward
No no no ....this is the response for why the 95s are superior to all the other 993s. Wrong thread!


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Old 09-09-2011, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc Shaw
Nah, I think it is just we get tired of constantly hearing how the 964 is almost as good as the 993 while many of us picked the 964 because we preferred it, not because we could not afford a 993.

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Hear, hear!

I have owned a 964 C2, a 930, a 993TT and now a 964T. I have no plans to move ahead in years and it isn't due to cost

They are both amazing platforms and I can't see anyone being unhappy with one vs the other.
Old 09-17-2011, 02:17 AM
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I have both, 91 C2 and 95 C4. 993 suspension is better. 964 engine music is much better.
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Originally Posted by TNR911
Why choose? Get one of both.
you're absolutly right!

allthough the 993 has a better suspension, less noise, better suspension and a finer engine (takes rev quicker) the 964 has something from the original 911 which makes it so desirable.

take a look at them!
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:04 AM
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I've owned an SC for over ten years before looking for the 993 that I eventually bought. The 964 represents the second to last step toward the end of the aircooled era. I was looking for the iconic final model of the series.
Old 09-19-2011, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chammond
I've been through a 993, 996, 911 and back to a 993.

For me it's the air cooled engine first and foremost. I sold my 993 to purchase a 996 because I wanted more creature comforts. In the end I wound up with a luxury car with a high performance engine (I say that with the utmost respect as I really did enjoy my 996 Targa).

I currently own an '88 911 and the 993. For me the 993 is the best car Porsche made. I love the sound of it, the rawness and, best of all, the curves. There just isn't anything like it. I know the water cooled variants are faster and have many more of the things we expect in a modern car, but for me it's the sound and rawness that the car delivers.
Yeah 997 GT3s are faster but nothing beats our visceral experience!
Old 09-19-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by camlob
Yeah 997 GT3s are faster but nothing beats our visceral experience!
The Beatles vs Lady Gaga
Old 09-19-2011, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FisterD
993=hydraulic lifters, multilink rear suspension, great curves, cool headlights, last of the air-cooled 911s, more hp and torque, 6 speed. I do like them both but the 993 won my heart....twice!
Won my heart in December 1999....I still love this car. I have put 61,000 miles on her in the past 12 years...never have owned a car this long.

In addition to the above, the car has better brakes, and I believe an improved ABS. Standard wheels at 7" and 9", optional 8" and 10", not the case with a 964, only get 7" front, 8" rear. There are lots of other differences,,,they just don't come to mind right now.
Old 09-19-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by camlob
Yeah 997 GT3s are faster but nothing beats our visceral experience!
Originally Posted by SPD YLO
The Beatles vs Lady Gaga
hmm...

I was with ya until Lady Gaga hit the stage

The GT3 is "rawer" and more visceral than a stock or slightly modified 993. The 997 GT3 is rough, out of the box. I'm not just saying that because I have one now... it really is.

The AC is better, but that is about as far as it goes from a comfort standpoint.
Clutch is stiff (no assist), suspension is jarring on Ca. roads... etc.
and I love it!
But My 2WD 993 turbo with PSS9s was more comfortable. And just as quick in a straight line too!

That said, I still want another 993 to go with it. Some day...

Now back to our regularly scheduled program

I had a 964 and loved it.
Some local friends who had 993s were to blame for my move to the "new" car.
The curves are sublime... and all of the other model improvements people have mentioned were very nice too.
Old 09-19-2011, 11:51 PM
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For me, it was mostly the looks of the car over the 964.


And, I had to have a car with that cool Carrera 4S logo on the back. It was all about the rear badge and wide hips for me. The front end ain't too bad either.

HFY - (Hell frickin' yeah...)
Old 09-20-2011, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
hmm...

I was with ya until Lady Gaga hit the stage

The GT3 is "rawer" and more visceral than a stock or slightly modified 993. The 997 GT3 is rough, out of the box. I'm not just saying that because I have one now... it really is.

The AC is better, but that is about as far as it goes from a comfort standpoint.
Clutch is stiff (no assist), suspension is jarring on Ca. roads... etc.
and I love it!
But My 2WD 993 turbo with PSS9s was more comfortable. And just as quick in a straight line too!

That said, I still want another 993 to go with it. Some day...

Now back to our regularly scheduled program

I had a 964 and loved it.
Some local friends who had 993s were to blame for my move to the "new" car.
The curves are sublime... and all of the other model improvements people have mentioned were very nice too.
Maybe Lady Gaga lost her make-up kit. Just kidding. Ill post a vid soon so you can hear the ITBs at full song. My bro actually says that is what he cant do to his RS. He has be researching for an ITB kit but nada. Rothsport is still developing one.

But of course that sensation is subjective to the eyes of the beholder. The RS is pure speed with all the sensations coming with it.

But when you watch this vid, things will change...LOL..


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Old 09-20-2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by camlob
Maybe Lady Gaga lost her make-up kit. Just kidding. Ill post a vid soon so you can hear the ITBs at full song. My bro actually says that is what he cant do to his RS. He has be researching for an ITB kit but nada. Rothsport is still developing one.

But of course that sensation is subjective to the eyes of the beholder. The RS is pure speed with all the sensations coming with it.

But when you watch this vid, things will change...LOL..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T67GpXbViSg
I am thoroughly confused... I was talking 997 GT3/993
but that RSR sounds awesome!


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