How do you lift a 993 engine w/ a engine hoist?
#1
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How do you lift a 993 engine w/ a engine hoist?
The engine is not positioned as well as I would like (it's secure I just can't lower the ATV lift fully). I've borrowed a neighbor's 1 Ton engine hoist (cherry picker) but I don't know the best place to hook the (front) chain or strap. There is a smallish eyelet that is under the intake runners that will work for the rear of the engine (transmission end) but I'm not sure where I should attach the front chain or strap. I could make a eyebolt attachment on the A/C lower frame but I think that will cause the engine to tilt significantly.
Is there a arrangement that works best with a cherry picker?
Can take photos if need be.
Is there a arrangement that works best with a cherry picker?
Can take photos if need be.
#2
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Normally you place a hydraulic jack under the engine (or a hydraulic table) and lower the unit out - or raise the car off of it... Are you not able to do it that way? I suppose that if you have to lower it out with a cherry picker you could feasibly bolt onto the motor mount stand. Its just so easy to lower the unit out on a jack.
#4
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I think he is trying to lift it back into the car. If so I still prefer a jack to lift the unit into place - but I guess you could yank it up through the small engine bay access.
#5
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No none of the above, I guess I needed to be more clear. I should have realized I was not posting in my other thread.
1) the engine (and tranny) are out, combination of lowering the engine and raising the car.
2) the engine (w/out tranny now) is sitting on a ATV lift but due to the engine and support boards positioning I can't finish lowering the ATV jack.
3) I just need to reposition the engine on a rolling dolly lower to the ground and more stable.
4) I still have several more tasks to do before I'll be reinstalling the engine/tranny.
1) the engine (and tranny) are out, combination of lowering the engine and raising the car.
2) the engine (w/out tranny now) is sitting on a ATV lift but due to the engine and support boards positioning I can't finish lowering the ATV jack.
3) I just need to reposition the engine on a rolling dolly lower to the ground and more stable.
4) I still have several more tasks to do before I'll be reinstalling the engine/tranny.
#6
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I read in another thread where the engine support crossbar (the one that the motor mount bolts go through) can be used for the rear hook location.
#7
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It has been some time since I loaded/unloaded a 3.6 on the back of a truck, and then lowered to a dolly .... but I recall using the front eyelet you mentioned - and ran a strap between two eyebolts inserted in the (rear) engine carrier. A second strap ( web/safety belt type) from front to rear with a short, notched piece of 2x4 to act as a spreader will keep load off the VRAM, and allow a celing hoist/come-a long to lift the engine perfectly balanced.
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#8
You don't. That why you get a nice lift table instead of a atv or transmission jack. The lift table will get you to the proper height to get it on an engine stand. You also need a good vw-dub style do-hickey to hold the engine.
#10
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It has been some time since I loaded/unloaded a 3.6 on the back of a truck, and then lowered to a dolly .... but I recall using the front eyelet you mentioned - and ran a strap between two eyebolts inserted in the (rear) engine carrier. A second strap ( web/safety belt type) from front to rear with a short, notched piece of 2x4 to act as a spreader will keep load off the VRAM, and allow a celing hoist/come-a long to lift the engine perfectly balanced.
I should have thought of running eyebolts through the rear engine carrier motor mount bolt eyes.
#11
OK - it is 6 years later since the last post on that subject and I don't see any pictures of the 993 engine hoist rig. My 96 993 engine and transmission is on the table and now I would like to separate the engine and mount it on the stand. I will improvise the 3 point method with front eyelet and 2 rear motor mounts. The issue I see is that the connection to the front eyelet must be completely vertical not to touch the intake. Let's see what I can come up with. In the meantime if somebody has a good picture this would be a good time to share it.
#12
Drifting
This is not an issue for you, since you have an actual lift, but what I don't like about that particular lift table is how tall it still is when all the way down. Which means, when you have the engine sitting on it, you have to lift the car that much higher to clear, so you can roll the engine/tans out.
#13
Well - grabbed my engine lift and the engine support bar and assembled a wide yoke with negative angles of lift on both sides - the center will not touch the throttle body. Now I can lift the motor off the table and start undoing the bell housing. That center eyelet does not look to me like it is safe to lift the whole weight of motor and the transmission so for now I will not try it. Securing and repositioning of the engine is good enough. Some pictures: https://goo.gl/photos/qtdF1ay3YWDzFi1b8
#14
Well - grabbed my engine lift and the engine support bar and assembled a wide yoke with negative angles of lift on both sides - the center will not touch the throttle body. Now I can lift the motor off the table and start undoing the bell housing. That center eyelet does not look to me like it is safe to lift the whole weight of motor and the transmission so for now I will not try it. Securing and repositioning of the engine is good enough. Some pictures: https://goo.gl/photos/qtdF1ay3YWDzFi1b8
Man, I love your garage setup !!