Dealer refused a ppi request
09-17-2010, 04:59 PM
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"Pristine" is listed as a body shop?!?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pristine-por...ntington-beach
Red flag #1. No wonder he gets itchy with PPIs. I expect that he buys a lot of wrecks. I've never heard of this place. Red flag #2. I agree- I think he specializes in new money OC noobs who just want a flashy "Porsh."
I say Hergie's or bail.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pristine-por...ntington-beach
Red flag #1. No wonder he gets itchy with PPIs. I expect that he buys a lot of wrecks. I've never heard of this place. Red flag #2. I agree- I think he specializes in new money OC noobs who just want a flashy "Porsh."
I say Hergie's or bail.
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09-17-2010, 05:24 PM
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"Pristine" is listed as a body shop?!?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pristine-por...ntington-beach
Red flag #1. No wonder he get's itchy with PPIs. I expect that he buys a lot of wrecks. I've never heard of this place. Red flag #2. I agree- I think he specializes in new money OC noobs who just want a flashy "Porsh."
I say Hergie's or bail.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/pristine-por...ntington-beach
Red flag #1. No wonder he get's itchy with PPIs. I expect that he buys a lot of wrecks. I've never heard of this place. Red flag #2. I agree- I think he specializes in new money OC noobs who just want a flashy "Porsh."
I say Hergie's or bail.
But I looked elsewhere since he seems to sell anything (not just a Porsche specialist) and at pretty hefty prices. To me it all sounded too much like one of those "Fantasy Car" or "Dream Car" places.
edit: looks like he's dropped his prices since 2 years ago. He has this at a reasonable price (at least on the surface): http://www.pristinemotorsports.com/i...d=1996%20993TT
09-17-2010, 06:01 PM
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I would even take it further when it comes to a PPI.
If the seller is stating that he/she is certain that the car is perfect and needs no work, I would be willing to pay for the PPI for peace of mind.
But if the car needs a slew of work, then the seller misrepresented the condition of the vehicle which is why I expect them to pay for the PPI up front...if it passes with flying colors, then I would obviously hand over the cash for the cost of the PPI.
And no, I would not want the selling dealer to do the PPI...that is a conflict of interest.
If the seller is stating that he/she is certain that the car is perfect and needs no work, I would be willing to pay for the PPI for peace of mind.
But if the car needs a slew of work, then the seller misrepresented the condition of the vehicle which is why I expect them to pay for the PPI up front...if it passes with flying colors, then I would obviously hand over the cash for the cost of the PPI.
And no, I would not want the selling dealer to do the PPI...that is a conflict of interest.
09-17-2010, 08:08 PM
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No affiliations, horse in the race, etc. But I have always had mixed feelings about this. If you were selling your prized 993, would you agree to let any buyer take it anywhere to do leakdown testing, test drives, etc.? I dont know anything about these shops and I know in this case they are all probably better than the dealer. But just saying, I have always understood the seller side of this that they want to protect their car as long as they hold the title. Is that what is going on here? No idea...but I guess there is another side to the discussion...
09-17-2010, 08:37 PM
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No affiliations, horse in the race, etc. But I have always had mixed feelings about this. If you were selling your prized 993, would you agree to let any buyer take it anywhere to do leakdown testing, test drives, etc.? I dont know anything about these shops and I know in this case they are all probably better than the dealer. But just saying, I have always understood the seller side of this that they want to protect their car as long as they hold the title. Is that what is going on here? No idea...but I guess there is another side to the discussion...
09-17-2010, 08:42 PM
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I think the seller has a right to reject a buyer's choice of PPI shop if he/she thinks the shop is questionable but then the buyer has the right to walk too. That said, if the buyer suggests a quality, well known shop like Herggie's then there is no reason for the seller to balk.
09-18-2010, 03:59 AM
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Oddly enough he suggested that the car could go to Truspeed for a PPI. I had originally contacted Gary at Factory Werks for the PPI based on good feedback here on Rennlist and the close proximity to Pristine's shop. I know that Truspeed has a good rep on the board as well. Just seems strange that he would send me to one of his competitors. He was equally opposed to having his car at the Newport Beach Porsche dealer. He offered that they did not respect his time, which I guess I can understand. As it turns out I may have found another car, but uninterrupted maintenance history including a recent top end, for similar asking price. That Turbo has got me all bothered though... It is the exact color combo (silver/red) that I'm looking for. Too bad I don't have Turbo money.
09-18-2010, 08:02 PM
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Oddly enough he suggested that the car could go to Truspeed for a PPI. I had originally contacted Gary at Factory Werks for the PPI based on good feedback here on Rennlist and the close proximity to Pristine's shop. I know that Truspeed has a good rep on the board as well. Just seems strange that he would send me to one of his competitors. He was equally opposed to having his car at the Newport Beach Porsche dealer. He offered that they did not respect his time, which I guess I can understand. As it turns out I may have found another car, but uninterrupted maintenance history including a recent top end, for similar asking price. That Turbo has got me all bothered though... It is the exact color combo (silver/red) that I'm looking for. Too bad I don't have Turbo money.
fwiw, I've heard good things about Frank Hanrahan. He mostly does Porsche performance modifications, but also regular service. He's very close to Truspeed in the same industrial complex next to the airport in Costa Mesa.
http://www.hausofperformance.com/Profile.htm
http://repairpal.com/haus-of-performance
09-18-2010, 09:42 PM
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Oddly enough he suggested that the car could go to Truspeed for a PPI. I had originally contacted Gary at Factory Werks for the PPI based on good feedback here on Rennlist and the close proximity to Pristine's shop. I know that Truspeed has a good rep on the board as well. Just seems strange that he would send me to one of his competitors. He was equally opposed to having his car at the Newport Beach Porsche dealer. He offered that they did not respect his time, which I guess I can understand. As it turns out I may have found another car, but uninterrupted maintenance history including a recent top end, for similar asking price. That Turbo has got me all bothered though... It is the exact color combo (silver/red) that I'm looking for. Too bad I don't have Turbo money.
05-08-2015, 08:18 AM
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I've been searching for a C4 / C4S a while now and thought I found a possible candidate at pristine motorsports in Huntington Beach CA. Based on a search here on the list I found and make arrangements to have a PPI done with Factory Werks (Gary Topal).
When I called Pristine, to make appropriate arrangements, he was immediately defensive about the choice for the PPI. Asked me pointedly how I arrived at my choice, and suggested that I have a PPI done at a place of his choosing. Am i missing something, or are PPI's not necessarily independent?
When I called Pristine, to make appropriate arrangements, he was immediately defensive about the choice for the PPI. Asked me pointedly how I arrived at my choice, and suggested that I have a PPI done at a place of his choosing. Am i missing something, or are PPI's not necessarily independent?
05-08-2015, 08:34 AM
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04-09-2021, 09:09 AM
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04-09-2021, 11:39 AM
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This thread is almost six years old. Probably best to start your own thread on the subject matter to solicit experiences. Best of luck with your purchase.
Closing this thread.
