geolab

and for the record, just google ' tips for owners porsche 993' and you fall on this at rank 5

http://perryandcoblog.com/2009/07/20...-carrera-911s/

the guy might be a rennlist member !!!
and do please read the reaction votes till the end as well, don't vomit at the switches tip, continue
unfortunately it does not make me laugh.....

Stuttgart951

EDIT: I ask that further discussion in this thread be limited, exclusively, to that of the mechanical sort.

Stuttgart951

Maybe this is the guy who changed my oil... Christ, almighty.

Quadcammer

fair enough.

not much else to say though until some of the suggestions have been crossed off.

any updates?

cgfen

Sorry to hear about your troubles.
I think the above advice from FF is the best route at this point.

Craig

Stuttgart951

Email exchange.

Work on the car has been halted.

Meeting at shop tomorrow morning.

CaptainCalf

Take a box of Danishes and try to be very understanding when they tell you they killed your car and they want to make it right at their own expense...

Stuttgart951

In fairness, the shop has stated that if the problem was caused by them, they will make it right.

"If" is an awfully big word, however. At this juncture, I am reliant upon the reputation and character of the individual in question.

black ice

Good luck tomorrow morning. We're all right behind you. Well, 500 miles or so, but right behind you nonetheless.

Been checking the forum every day to see how your situation will resolve. Keep us in the loop!

dave

g_murray

Me too. These types of events give me the absolute ******! Jeebus, you leave your car in for an effing simple oil change and now it's a 'whole production' with the whole integrity/value/reliability etc. of the car now in question.

My heart goes out to you ...and, FWIW, good luck in the meeting. However, my 'funny bone' is twitching that all the mechanics have all been prepped beforehand to NOT let any cat out of the bag or admit to screwing up in any way shape or form.

If I were you, I would take on the personality of that guy in the show "Lie to me" and look deep into the eyes and body language of everyone who is giving you - what will be in effect - the company line.

You need to have a SET set of questions ready on a steno pad to ask and to PROBE. (That's your homework btw!)

Gerry

race911

I've been reading along and purposely not commenting as I can't think of anything to add. Well, maybe on the "plugged oil inlet" I can as I had the oil tank float (the one inside the tank) come off on an otherwise POS customer car years and years ago, and that was fun figuring out what was going on.

But as to the shops, I can't believe how cynical the comments are about them wanting to cover their asses. That's what they have liability insurance for. I've owned two different Porsche repair places for a total of about 10 years of my life (plus another 3 when I first started out as a teen in a general repair shop). You don't stay in business shining people on if you're an independent. There aren't enough customers out there. I've had a couple of problems along the way, and it sucks. Usually came from me wanting to give people a break from a sob story about how they don't have enough money for a proper repair. Yeah right with a 911........ (But that's not the case here.) I'll put my vote down that there will be a fairly simple solution from the shop's standpoint--if we caused it, we'll fix it.

VNTGSPD

Well said! I have had the same sentiment but have no shop experience so have withheld my opinion as well. The OP says the guy is reputable and the shop is as well. Here's hoping for a good outcome and the continued faith that there are still people out there that do the right thing!

matt777

Out of curiosity, does anybody know what the minimum oil quantity is to maintain pressure? I'm just wondering if an under fill situation could cause this problem. Is it something that might not be evident until the thermostat opened?

2Many Cars

I'm generally an advocate of working these things out face to face (in an adult way). Go to the shop and speak directly with the boss. Ask directly "what's going on here?" If he has a shred of decency he'll tell you. If not his evasiveness will be apparent. You did the right thing taking it back to that shop because as soon as you take it somewhere else you provide them with an avenue of deniability that the third party did it. People make honest mistakes, sometimes with expensive consequences. It's how they handle them that counts.

Arena993

Well said.

Mike