I've always loved the look of the huge brake disc and bright red caliper through the alloys on the turbos and was thinking about upgrading mine to tt spec.

Will the big reds bolt on without the need for an adapter?

Anyone got any second hand rotors and calipers for sale (or know where to get some other than E Bay...) - they are mighty pricey new!

Always fancied big yellows too!

 

You can bolt on the big reds with nothing more than new caliper bolts for the rears (need the longer TT bolts). Also need new rotors & pads of course. But honestly, big reds hardly look any different from "little blacks" (I can't tell the difference) so IMHO your best bet is to just paint your stock calipers red if that's the look you like. Save your money.

 

FWIW I can always spot the Big Reds over the stock brakes (even painted). If look is what you're after paint your calipers (the paint costs $30 or less in the States), see if you like it and if you're still not happy then get the Big Reds.

 

Agree with Mr. Ilko, if all you want is the look I would either paint or powdercoat the existing calipers. Here are my stock (non-TT) calipers done in yellow(removed and powdercoated). I think they look great in the stock size. The TT's are bigger and bigger $$$$

 

Yup, the big reds would be more "show" than "go" for most of us. Using good pads and brake fluid, you'd have to be a serious track pro to find the stock blacks inadequate. And then, while improving your brakes, you'd be adding a fair bit of weight where you want it least...

Once my rotors need a change, I'll take a look at the price differential of upgrading.

I figure the stock calipers are worth something which would offfset some of the initial purchase, but I'd be curious to know the ongoing cost differential of the larger pads and rotors. I am guessing the up front cost is just the beginning.

Best,

Matt

 

If you need them, you need them, I wouldn't want to track mine w/ the smaller brake set.

 

I guess it all depends on the intended use.

Mike

 

Yup, but you're in the very small minority!

Most track drivers that hang around here, including those in advanced and instructor DE groups, get along nicely (and swiftly) with stock Porsche brakes, race pads and fluid. Of course, racing is a different beast altogether...

This is by no means a criticism/jab Bill, just that most of us (Me!) are inclined to get better gear, when in fact our own skills are the real impediment.

Best,

Matt

 

The big reds will dissapate heat better, but my experience is that they will not increase your track times (increased mass is significant).

SF

 

And in stock class you need to use stock brakes. How many stock class 993 club racers are out there, and have any been non-competitive with stock brake calipers?

 

as is brake torque, a 993 w/ big reds has massively more stopping power than one w/o(or most other cars for that matter)

fact of the matter is if you track the 993(not talking racing here, thats a whole nother thing) the big reds will run cooler last longer, both in a session and in a season and out brake most anything else. If you don't track the car then yes it's bling. If you race then yes you need to stick to the rules. yes, they are expensive to buy and keep up to spec.


If you don't want them on your car fine, they do enhance the performance envelope for those that do use them

 

lets not get side tracked, as w/ all other 911s that are in a given class, when everyone has the same handicap it is no longer a handicap. Just because they can get by doesn't mean no one wouldn't like something better.

 

Hi Simon,

I think you said it best: you like the look of reds, or yellows. Keep your stock ones and paint them. They will look stellar, and inside 17s or 18s, they still will look like "big" brakes. Unless, of course, you prefer the significantly higher cost of both pads and rotors at every replacement.

Edward

 

Thanks to all for the useful replies.

I'm not a track day guy - just drive my car to work pretty much day in day out with the odd nice drive out of London once in a while. For me, it's the look rather than the increased performance of the larger brakes that I'm after. I have just always loved the look (especially against black bodywork) of the big yellow calipers. I'm concerned that standard they will look too small.

I'm not sure I'd want to paint them myself - need to have the Porsche script vbisible on the calipers...>!

There's LA dismantlers / 911pcar that have offerred to supply a yellow powder coated set of standard 993 calipers. Anyone know this outfit and can vouch for their service?

 

Here is how standard caliper look in yellow on a black car.

Jack