Why I WOULD buy a car that's been tracked
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So, in prep for the DE at Sebring May 8th, I spent today prepping my car. I changed the oil and filters, changed the trans fluid, sucked out and replaced as much power steering fluid as I could, bled the brakes and clutch slave cylinder, inspected the pads and rotors, Inspected the front suspension and steering rack, replaced the air filter, and went over the wheels with an eye out for any fine detail amiss.
I do this each time. All the fluids, except the oil, looked like brand new. Even the calipers put out clean fluid. I can guarantee that my car is the best maintained 143,000 mile car on my block.
So many people think that a car that has been tracked is trashed. I was thinking today that my car is probably better now than it was at 50,000 miles with someone driving it to work and back every day on the 101 (bought in SFO.)
Just a random thought after a really great Zen day of 993 bonding....
I do this each time. All the fluids, except the oil, looked like brand new. Even the calipers put out clean fluid. I can guarantee that my car is the best maintained 143,000 mile car on my block.
So many people think that a car that has been tracked is trashed. I was thinking today that my car is probably better now than it was at 50,000 miles with someone driving it to work and back every day on the 101 (bought in SFO.)
Just a random thought after a really great Zen day of 993 bonding....
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+2. I LOVE my car. Over 115k and still goes like stink! I take it to the track, flog the hell out of it, throw it back in the trailer, go home, put street tires on it and drive it around town
How many other marques gets to say that?
Come to think of it, I've never even thought about changing out the power steering fluid.........how?
Have to look into that.
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Come to think of it, I've never even thought about changing out the power steering fluid.........how?
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+3 Just spent the day with Marc at the track, came home gave the car a once over and will be ready to go at it again tomorrow (depending on the weather) My car gets very well looked after!!
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Track cars are better maintained than street cars, but they're driven much, much harder. Ten thousand miles of track driving is FAR harder on an engine, gearbox, clutch, and suspension than the same miles on the street. The extra maintenance doesn't mean the car isn't being worn out faster than a street car.
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It should be a crime against humanity not to drive your Porsche at a race track. After all, they are engineered from racing and there is no way you could possible drive your Porsche on the public roads the way it can be driven on the race track. But I have a lot still to learn about maintaining one's Porsche before my 993 could ever be considered as good as some of the other track cars out there (I am a relatively new Porsche owner, having owned mine for just over a year now). I ordered a copy the book "Porsche 993 Essential Companion", so hopefully the material in this book will set me in the right direction.
I got to ride along as a passenger in "trophy's" car at a race track today and OMG that car is awesome. It really does corner like it is on rails. Marc's car also looks awesome even though it is only a 964 (sorry Marc I could not resist). Awesome meeting these two guys today ...
I got to ride along as a passenger in "trophy's" car at a race track today and OMG that car is awesome. It really does corner like it is on rails. Marc's car also looks awesome even though it is only a 964 (sorry Marc I could not resist). Awesome meeting these two guys today ...
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Yup, agree wholeheartedly with Rick on all counts! When I tracked my 993, I was ever so diligent toward every detail, from proactive maintenance to screws on tail lights (ask me how I know this one!!). Now that she's retired to pure daily-driver status only, she gets a fraction of the attention when she was pulling double duty.
Not to mention I seriously suspect that tracking for all those years really has kept the engine internals healthy, arguably more so than a grocery getter (I think of Jack LaLane who could probably kick most of our butts at 75 yrs old!). And now at 120+K miles, I honestly think she is as fast and smooth to redline, if not more so, and tight as a drum, than she was when I bought her at 50K miles. Porsche really got it right with these cars ...hail to the aircooled!![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Not to mention I seriously suspect that tracking for all those years really has kept the engine internals healthy, arguably more so than a grocery getter (I think of Jack LaLane who could probably kick most of our butts at 75 yrs old!). And now at 120+K miles, I honestly think she is as fast and smooth to redline, if not more so, and tight as a drum, than she was when I bought her at 50K miles. Porsche really got it right with these cars ...hail to the aircooled!
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Track cars are better maintained than street cars, but they're driven much, much harder. Ten thousand miles of track driving is FAR harder on an engine, gearbox, clutch, and suspension than the same miles on the street. The extra maintenance doesn't mean the car isn't being worn out faster than a street car.
I would not hesitate to buy a tracked 911, certainly because it would probably already have the expensive track goodies I would want on a car anyway which would more than offset the cost of any worn items.
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Nothing wrong with buying track cars, but don't speak as if the car does not experience accelerated wear on parts - you're smoking crack if you thought this is not the case as long as your fluids are changed.
There is not a track car out there that has hard 30k miles on the track that will last up to 250k miles on the street after its track service without a clutch replacement, transmission, or engine rebuild. Hard track miles, not DE's.
There is not a track car out there that has hard 30k miles on the track that will last up to 250k miles on the street after its track service without a clutch replacement, transmission, or engine rebuild. Hard track miles, not DE's.
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Nothing wrong with buying track cars, but don't speak as if the car does not experience accelerated wear on parts - you're smoking crack if you thought this is not the case as long as your fluids are changed.
There is not a track car out there that has hard 30k miles on the track that will last up to 250k miles on the street after its track service without a clutch replacement, transmission, or engine rebuild. Hard track miles, not DE's.
There is not a track car out there that has hard 30k miles on the track that will last up to 250k miles on the street after its track service without a clutch replacement, transmission, or engine rebuild. Hard track miles, not DE's.
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Since 30,000 miles is almost 3000 laps at Sebring, I think I'm OK with my original statement. I think I get about 50 laps in a typical day at a DE, So 600 track days @ 4 per year...