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Old 09-04-2020, 11:23 AM
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At least we learnt how to use the search function no?
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I just did an oil change, Walmart had 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 15-50, for 24.39 with tax, filters were $17 and $16 for Mahle, at Pelican Parts, plus thru September 30th there is a $10 rebate per jug. So buy the two separate and send in two rebates. So ended up with about $38 for parts. My labor was billed at 1 beer.
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One of the oddest service costs on the 993, that seems to have stayed constant over the years.......for the past 20 years I have paid about the same amount - $ 200-$250 whether I went to dealer or indy and in the states of NJ, Maryland, NC and Georgia..........

For the extra $100 versus DIY I used to do......fine with me due to the fender liner removal aspect........the only thing that the techs seem to mess up is reconnecting the black trim to the rocker panel near the front of the rear wheel well properly.......I always check it upon completion of the oil/filter change and have them attach it so it is flush with the rocker panel......has happened at least 4 times......
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Originally Posted by Chuck W.
Yes sir. It is always great when members bring back old threads they found while searching a topic. I even enjoys seeing the names and aviators of members that have moved on.
I’m a member, an aviator and have an avatar. But I haven’t moved on yet. Sorry couldn’t resist and all in good fun.
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Originally Posted by abiazis
One of the oddest service costs on the 993, that seems to have stayed constant over the years.......for the past 20 years I have paid about the same amount - $ 200-$250 whether I went to dealer or indy and in the states of NJ, Maryland, NC and Georgia..........

For the extra $100 versus DIY I used to do......fine with me due to the fender liner removal aspect........the only thing that the techs seem to mess up is reconnecting the black trim to the rocker panel near the front of the rear wheel well properly.......I always check it upon completion of the oil/filter change and have them attach it so it is flush with the rocker panel......has happened at least 4 times......
My Porsche Dealer in the Philly area charges approximately $300.00 with both filters and they include a hand car wash. I wait for the car in a clean, air conditioned/heated waiting room with tv, beverages and snacks.
For a few dollars additional, I don't jeopardize my life crawling under jack stands. I'm comfortable, and the work is performed by Genuine, factory trained and certified, Porsche technicians.

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Originally Posted by mike cap
I’m a member, an aviator and have an avatar. But I haven’t moved on yet. Sorry couldn’t resist and all in good fun.
Haaa... I would like to blame it on auto correct.... but I can't
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For $250 I wouldn’t mind having a shop do it. No dealer near me in Vero Beach Florida. I took to what was supposed to be a quality shop.

i couldn’t remove the right rear wheel after the oil service. They claimed they used a torque wrench which was bs. Then they claimed they didn’t need to remove the tire to get the filter and tank plug out which was double bs. I ended up cutting 2 lugs off. Did my own oil last year both the sump plug and oil tank plug were rounded because someone used a 12 point instead of a six point socket. Had to replace both.

just because shops are expensive, work on higher end cars and serve cappuccino in the lobby doesn’t mean the actually guy working on your car has the experience or attitude to do it right.

get to know the shop well before you turn over your baby.
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Originally Posted by Gjbacci
For $250 I wouldn’t mind having a shop do it.

just because shops are expensive, work on higher end cars and serve cappuccino in the lobby doesn’t mean the actually guy working on your car has the experience or attitude to do it right.

get to know the shop well before you turn over your baby.
I agree. The price charged generally has no correlation with the quality of the work performed. Wages are not a substitution for the quality of work performed.
Fortunately, the mechanic at my Porsche Dealer was factory trained on air cooled cars and has twenty-five (35) years experience and is old school. He is the same mechanic who has worked on my car since my car was new.
We also have several independently owned shops in the area that also do fabulous work.
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Originally Posted by Twilightblue28A
My Porsche Dealer in the Philly area charges approximately $300.00 with both filters and they include a hand car wash. I wait for the car in a clean, air conditioned/heated waiting room with tv, beverages and snacks.
For a few dollars additional, I don't jeopardize my life crawling under jack stands. I'm comfortable, and the work is performed by Genuine, factory trained and certified, Porsche technicians.
My first oil change was at a dealer with genuine factory trained and certified Porsche technicians.

They put way too much oil in it and only replaced one filter because they didn't realize the car has two. And this was their older "master" tech who supposedly was their air-cooled guy.

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Originally Posted by rk-d
My first oil change was at a dealer with genuine factory trained and certified Porsche technicians.

They put way too much oil in it and only replaced one filter because they didn't realize the car has two. And this was their older "master" tech who supposedly was their air-cooled guy.
I'm sure and I'm sorry that you had a negative experience at your dealer. I feel it depends on the mechanic and whether or not the mechanic cares. Did you speak with the dealer's service manager? Some care and others don't. It's dependent on how well the dealership is managed. You may want to try a different Porsche dealer.
Not all Porsche dealers are created equally.
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Originally Posted by Twilightblue28A
I'm sure and I'm sorry that you had a negative experience at your dealer. I feel it depends on the mechanic and whether or not the mechanic cares. Did you speak with the dealer's service manager? Some care and others don't. It's dependent on how well the dealership is managed. You may want to try a different Porsche dealer.
Not all Porsche dealers are created equally.
This was the dealer I bought the car from actually. It's actually a "premier" Porsche dealer too. Guy who worked the car had been there for decades and was their specialist tech. I didn't bring it up - this was after a series of issues with that shop and I had moved on at that point.

Of course you can get good service from a Porsche dealer and I'm glad it sounds like you're lucky in that respect. But, unfortunately, the Porsche seal of approval doesn't mean much in guaranteeing a quality air cooled shop. Water-cooled cars - different story. I have zero reservations getting my 992 serviced at the dealer.

These cars are rare enough that it's simply outside a Porsche dealer's normal work flow. I am not shocked that they're not adept. In a way, I can't blame them. Indy shops where air-cooled guys congregate can be a safer bet (but certainly no guarantee).

Finding a quality shop is the biggest PITA of owning one of these cars.
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I would never take my car to a mainstream Porsche Dealer except only last resort would be a Certified Porsche Classic Partner but the labor rate is insane.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
This was the dealer I bought the car from actually. It's actually a "premier" Porsche dealer too. Guy who worked the car had been there for decades and was their specialist tech. I didn't bring it up - this was after a series of issues with that shop and I had moved on at that point.

Of course you can get good service from a Porsche dealer and I'm glad it sounds like you're lucky in that respect. But, unfortunately, the Porsche seal of approval doesn't mean much in guaranteeing a quality air cooled shop.
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I get it. I took my car, once, to a different Porsche dealer in the area for state inspection and an oil change. I was charged $800.00 for the oil change. The "service adviser" called to let me know in order to pass inspection, I needed a license plate bulb. I was charged $18.00 for the bulb, plus inspection $200.00; and I am emissions exempt. I paid the bill, left, and I will never return.
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Originally Posted by Twilightblue28A
I needed a license plate bulb. I was charged $18.00 for the bulb,
Ouch - you sure that wasn't a genuine Ferrari light bulb?

When I purchased my car I found that most of the little plastic nuts that are used to attach trim and wheel well liners were stripped, particularly the ones for the right rear trim (to change the larger oil filter). To me that's years of sloppy mechanics who are in a hurry. Most DIYers have the patience and care to do it right on their own car.

In years past before I had a place to work on my car I would occasionally use a dealer (this was for a Honda). I would always check under the hood before driving off the lot and many times found fluids spilled, fasteners loose or missing and even tools left behind. I have seen this at Porsche Indys too. Yes, there are good ones out there but they are few and far between.
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Originally Posted by Twilightblue28A
My Porsche Dealer in the Philly area charges approximately $300.00 with both filters and they include a hand car wash.
I would not trust dealers to wash the pcar, hand or machine.


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