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Old 12-29-2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jscott82
I realize the conventional wisdom is to use a rod of some sort to "roll" the fender lips in. But I have watched two pros do it and the both used a plastic faced dead blow hammer. I’ve done it both ways, I’ve helped several friends roll theirs with a baseball bat, but when it came time to do mine I grabbed the hammer.... Hammer is much easier, faster, and is more precise than a rod, it just takes a little more courage to start beating on your prized car. The trick is to work the lip up slowly using gentle blows, took me 15 minutes per fender to get them right.

As far a paint cracking, heat will help but there is no guarantee, the sharper the edge you create the more likely cracking will occur. On my rears I wanted them rolled tight, so the edge is a actually a 180deg fold, there is no way paint will survive such a sharp bend.
That's why on my 911 I just shaved them off w/ a body saw, as long as you leave a nub of a lip they retain much of their strength. When they are bent up at an extreme angle they are dirt/moisture traps. Are you retaining the inner plastic panels?
Old 12-29-2009 | 06:50 PM
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Bill, and faithful Rennlist brethren, I simply can't take it anymore.

If I burn ONE more brain cell worrying about offsets I can't possibly test...

I just confirmed the order per the specs above. And yes, we're going GOLD!!!

Will post pics when they arrive...

Best,

Matt

PS - these are the magnesium versions, but you get the idea...
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Old 12-29-2009 | 10:02 PM
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Matt, congrats on the order - That's just pure wheel sex indeed.



Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
BBS has a # of different centers, each of which has a different o/s. Currently exploring mag center E28s 9&11
Bill,

I've seen many discussions here on RL about different wheel centers but never seen any actual offset numbers. It would be great if you could share the data you have on these different centers.
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IMHO, those are the nicest wheels for our cars, period. And in gold! Well done Matt .
Old 12-30-2009 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
...3. How much additional outboard clearance did you get?
Hard to say but I'd say about 1"
1", really? the lips on all the cars that I have seen is 1/2" at most. Did you push the whole fender out in addition to rolling the lip?
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Originally Posted by 993_Pilot
1", really? the lips on all the cars that I have seen is 1/2" at most. Did you push the whole fender out in addition to rolling the lip?
Maybe I was too generous with my estimation but I think it moves somewhat so you might achieve little more than the lip itself.
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
993 fender lips are very strong and very hard to bend, despite others notions to the contrary the inner plastic liners are supported by the lips amd you will need to be careful to provide some support for them, otherwise i'd say just cut them off as is done w/ 911 lips.

What width and o/s did you end up ordering?

I've been in contact w/ BBS in Ga. about some E28 and E88 wheels. They have been very helpful, but some of their suggestions just don't seem right.

Here's my latest doodling to compare know fits w/ possible wider fits


stuff like this makes me absolutely adore Mr. Verburg
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Old 02-18-2022 | 07:04 PM
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The goal is to allow a bigger tire - correct?

Any downside?
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In my mind there is
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Having also E88 i made following observation ...

All with MPS cup2 225/265 stock size
car sits lower than RS ...
Original turbos 8x18/52 and 10x18/65, with 5mm Spacer no problem at all
OZ Allegerita 8x18/50 and 10x18/65, without spacer just fit
BBS E88 8x18/52 and 10x18/65, only survive coz i have a very hard suspension and very negative chamber (~ -3 deg), and after i pushed the fender at the rear about 10mm out with Cargraphik nut/bolt set.
than run Trofeo R on it .. but 235 in front ... but it got bad with the E88 only, scratching rear and front on the left side (as usual)

Running right now Nankang 235/265 on the OZs all clear

Why as usual ...? coz our cars are still more or less hand made and the chassis is not perfectly aligned with the suspension axle, or fender differ (best check by measuring outside fender to fixpoint on frame)
tried to adjust the suspension frame, with a little success but still not mid aligned. Somehow on most of the old 911s, the right distance center / fender is longer than on the left ...

But really what bothers me is that the rims have (theoretically??) same size but still totally different outcome ...

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Old 02-19-2022 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Holger3.2
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But really what bothers me is that the rims have (theoretically??) same size but still totally different outcome ...
flange width will affect f/s and b/s of wheels that have the same ET but different flanges

most modern wheels have .5" flanges but BBS have .4" flanges,( at least on the aftermarket wheels) and Fuchs .35"

none of that affects fit unless the tire doesn't project out from the flange



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