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Old 11-15-2009, 10:06 PM
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Default PSS10s are fantastic.

I've been driving Michigan roads for the past week (not unlike driving on mars). The car is taut. But totally acceptable. No noise, no harshness. Its great. Less jarring than a 997 GT3.

I have yet to dial-in track settings. But so far its great, and allows me to run TRG bars at medium stiffness. Thats impressive dampening as far as I've experienced.

FYI...my setup:
Bilstein PSS10
TRG Bars
Tarret front droplinks
RS rear droplinks
Chris Walrod Control arm bushings
Stock top mounts
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Amen on the Pss10s!

My advice: inspect the shocks' droplink mounts fairly often. Make sure they are on very tight, and perfectly aligned with your sways. These suckers have a tendency to rotate under heavy loads, especially on the track. My rear pax side rotated and hit my driveaxle once. The driveaxle ate part of it! I'm glad I caught it in time!
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Hey that's really good to hear you're enjoying your new suspension. Did you consider any other adjustable dampers besides the PSS10's?

Thanks.
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+1 for PSS10's. I love mine!
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Originally Posted by P1CR
I've been driving Michigan roads for the past week (not unlike driving on mars). The car is taut. But totally acceptable. No noise, no harshness. Its great. Less jarring than a 997 GT3.

I have yet to dial-in track settings. But so far its great, and allows me to run TRG bars at medium stiffness. Thats impressive dampening as far as I've experienced.

FYI...my setup:
Bilstein PSS10
TRG Bars
Tarret front droplinks
RS rear droplinks
Chris Walrod Control arm bushings
Stock top mounts

P1CR what setting are you running on you PSS10's, I have been fooling around with mine a bit had them up to 8 but that is a bit harsh for these western Pa roads.

Love my PSS10's also!
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Originally Posted by ironimages
P1CR what setting are you running on you PSS10's, I have been fooling around with mine a bit had them up to 8 but that is a bit harsh for these western Pa roads.

Love my PSS10's also!
+1, I'm watching this thread too, I like these dampers which are high on the list to replace the standard stuff on my car, so I'd too like to know the settings used, and also what the diameters are for the TRG sway bars, again this is also another upgrade planned, but I'd like some thoughts and experience from you guys too.

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I'd recommend monoballs at the shock top mounts, RS rubber bushes in all the suspension arms, solid rear side mounts, RS sways, 450/670 springs(min)
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The PSS10's have a much more accurate adjustment thn the 9's.. I should have waited..
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
I'd recommend monoballs at the shock top mounts, RS rubber bushes in all the suspension arms, solid rear side mounts, RS sways, 450/670 springs(min)
Bill,

Is there much difference between the standard sways and lets say the RS sways or a TRG sway? And what is gained? Educate me please!

Thanks,

Mark
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Originally Posted by ironimages
Bill,

Is there much difference between the standard sways and lets say the RS sways or a TRG sway? And what is gained? Educate me please!

Thanks,

Mark
There's a world of difference, I never had stock but I've had RoW M030, TRG & RS sways on my car.

Far and away the best are RS, also far and away the most expensive(the devalued dollar has really hurt the oe parts situation)

TRG are too big, they interfere w/ the brake vacuum boost can in front and I was always breaking the collars(the bars do tend to slide side to side). I didn't particularly like their bushes either.

M030 was fine for street use
Old 11-16-2009, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
There's a world of difference, I never had stock but I've had RoW M030, TRG & RS sways on my car.

Far and away the best are RS, also far and away the most expensive(the devalued dollar has really hurt the oe parts situation)

TRG are too big, they interfere w/ the brake vacuum boost can in front and I was always breaking the collars(the bars do tend to slide side to side). I didn't particularly like their bushes either.

M030 was fine for street use
Are these controlling body roll? Do they also minimize yaw (side to side sway)?
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Originally Posted by JPP
Are these controlling body roll? Do they also minimize yaw (side to side sway)?
To a certain extent, yes. But you start w/ the tires, tire pressures, shocks an springs then tune the sways. But they are more for tweeking the over/understeer characteristics in a corner
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
There's a world of difference, I never had stock but I've had RoW M030, TRG & RS sways on my car.

Far and away the best are RS, also far and away the most expensive(the devalued dollar has really hurt the oe parts situation)

TRG are too big, they interfere w/ the brake vacuum boost can in front and I was always breaking the collars(the bars do tend to slide side to side). I didn't particularly like their bushes either.

M030 was fine for street use
Bill:

Have you ever looked at the H&R sways?
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Originally Posted by ironimages
Bill:

Have you ever looked at the H&R sways?
Only pics, they are like the factory bars w/ built in collars, too big IMO. Sways are tweeks not hammers
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I have had my PSS9s on now for, what, maybe 7 years (of daily driving) and they are still the solid performers they were when I installed them. I agree the ***** are far and away better on the 10s, and the detents actually work. But since I just set mine and never touch them, I don't care. Not to mention nothing has budged ever, and all collars have held solid (thanks to Hergies for you SoCal folks!!) Great shock I can't say enough about!

As for sways, the best bang-for-buck IMHO is the M030 RoW rear turbo bar. With the conventional M030 22mm front, and this RoW 21mm bar at the rear, you have superb balance, and zero fitment issies with droplinks, etc. Truly bolt-in replacements with new bushings. I've even heard of some drilling a new mounting hole on the "inside" of the existing one for added stiffness (not that I would do it). And seriously cheaper than RS or aftermarket options. Just food for thought for you.

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