The Making of My Blue Monster ** Update Oct 26 2010
12-06-2009, 10:25 AM
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Good news: the blue monster will be ready to picked up tomorrow afternoon 
Bad news: it SNOWED here yesterday, and unless the roads are dry by tomorrow afternoon, I am contemplating to wait another day
Bad news: it SNOWED here yesterday, and unless the roads are dry by tomorrow afternoon, I am contemplating to wait another day
12-06-2009, 10:41 AM
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Dam - reading this thread on the edge of my seat.
You got any dyno figures man ?
So very interested in the difference in power with the turbos.
Car looks nice too.
You got any dyno figures man ?
So very interested in the difference in power with the turbos.
Car looks nice too.
12-06-2009, 11:11 AM
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Nordschleife Master
Yes, car looks great. The tail works better on a NB with a dark color, I think. I've heard folks say this standard kit is good for 400+ hp/380lbs torque but not sure where the measurement is taken. Is there a kit that mounts the intercooler someplace else lower to eliminate the need for a turbo tail? There's an RL'r here from the Netherlands, I think, with a dark blue Targa that has a Turbo setup that mounted the intercooler aft of the engine somehow. Must be a tight fit. I wonder if it's the same size/capacity/functionality as the top mount setup. Anyone know?
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12-06-2009, 04:41 PM
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If I added a supercharger to the car, I would not require a wing of any kind. I would then have a perfect "sleeper" ( I would have changed the lic plate to read "zzzz" 
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When I did my research about adding power "TheOtherEric" provided a lot of research about Supercharger vs Turbo. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616 I decided to go ahead with the turbo solution.
Unfortunately, because the intercooler is such an integral part of the turbo set up, I had no other choice but to add the turbo wing.
Also, the protomotive turbo kit set-up is different than "poob0yw's" set up https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616 which has his intercoolers where the muffler cans are; the same location where Promotive has its turbos.
I still haven't seen the OEM turbo wing on a NB in person, but I hope its not too "bling." I liked "Arena993" turbo wing on his rivi blue cab (I don't think he has it anymore, which worries me
) https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616
I will also find a place where I can dyno the car to be sure what the final HP this kit produces and report back.
But for now, I can't wait just to get my beast back in the cage, it has been too long.
)When I did my research about adding power "TheOtherEric" provided a lot of research about Supercharger vs Turbo. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616 I decided to go ahead with the turbo solution.
Unfortunately, because the intercooler is such an integral part of the turbo set up, I had no other choice but to add the turbo wing.
Also, the protomotive turbo kit set-up is different than "poob0yw's" set up https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616 which has his intercoolers where the muffler cans are; the same location where Promotive has its turbos.
I still haven't seen the OEM turbo wing on a NB in person, but I hope its not too "bling." I liked "Arena993" turbo wing on his rivi blue cab (I don't think he has it anymore, which worries me
) https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=23616I will also find a place where I can dyno the car to be sure what the final HP this kit produces and report back.
But for now, I can't wait just to get my beast back in the cage, it has been too long.
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12-06-2009, 06:46 PM
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Some think the turbo wing is too much for a NB car, but in your instance it is necessary to house the intercooler. So there is no "bling factor"....it's totally functional. I can't wait to see the hp numbers!
12-06-2009, 07:37 PM
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You can just see the brackets and intercooler at the bottom edge of the photo.
Here's the company that makes the kits:
http://www.t-t-p.de/english/964-993.php
It would be interesting to see what kinds of impact the different designs have on the life/durability/power of the engine and turbo system. Does Porsche use water cooled intercoolers in the 996/997 turbo design?
12-07-2009, 09:52 PM
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So I picked up the monster today. First impressions:
1. The turbos are doing their job. The power is definitely noticeable. I have not gone all out yet, but it you can feel the boost kick in ard 4 k upwards. I can pretty much reach from say 50 mph to 100 mph in a matter of a few seconds, its that powerful. I am also still getting used to the new noises that is being created by the turbo and waste gates. It sounds like having orchestra instruments playing in the back.
2. The WEVO (or other brands) motor mounts are a must if you have a SSK and GR installed IMHO. The shifting becomes 1,000x better. The downside of it, the rear rattles and shakes a bit more, but heck, this is a beast not a kitty cat
3. The H+R super cup coilovers with the thicker H+R sways (24 and 26 mm) are a significant improvement over the MO30s. The car handles better and rides softer than on the HD setup.
4. The exhaust sounds great, it is very similar to the Fister stage II growl. I was very worried for not having the exhaust sound that I have gotten accustomed to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l28l_X6dYs4
5. The turbo wing doesn't look as bad on a NB as I initially thought. I like it.
6. The three spoke steering wheel is an improvement of the four spoke stock wheel. It provides a nicer driving experience.
In summary, I am very satisfied with the turbo upgrade and the additional mods. It is just AWESOME!!!
1. The turbos are doing their job. The power is definitely noticeable. I have not gone all out yet, but it you can feel the boost kick in ard 4 k upwards. I can pretty much reach from say 50 mph to 100 mph in a matter of a few seconds, its that powerful. I am also still getting used to the new noises that is being created by the turbo and waste gates. It sounds like having orchestra instruments playing in the back.
2. The WEVO (or other brands) motor mounts are a must if you have a SSK and GR installed IMHO. The shifting becomes 1,000x better. The downside of it, the rear rattles and shakes a bit more, but heck, this is a beast not a kitty cat
3. The H+R super cup coilovers with the thicker H+R sways (24 and 26 mm) are a significant improvement over the MO30s. The car handles better and rides softer than on the HD setup.
4. The exhaust sounds great, it is very similar to the Fister stage II growl. I was very worried for not having the exhaust sound that I have gotten accustomed to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l28l_X6dYs4
5. The turbo wing doesn't look as bad on a NB as I initially thought. I like it.
6. The three spoke steering wheel is an improvement of the four spoke stock wheel. It provides a nicer driving experience.
In summary, I am very satisfied with the turbo upgrade and the additional mods. It is just AWESOME!!!
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12-07-2009, 10:09 PM
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Car looks awesome, Tjangi. Can't wait to read more driving reports. From the sounds of the weather headed your way, winter is definitely here, so be careful with all that torque ...
12-07-2009, 10:10 PM
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While I was there I saw this super wide Pcar (it WAS a 1995 993 NB) with a rear width of 3.5 inches wider than the WB panels. It has a 12 inch wide rim with room for even wider rims. It is giving me ideas that I really don't need at the moment (or loooong time) Must stay away from these shops...
12-07-2009, 10:46 PM
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Nice - Blue beast is sweet.
Wevo's are on my list - did you get black or blue's ?
So up until 4k rpm the car drives exactly the same hey. Is the increase in power worth the cost ? How much faster would you say the car is on initial feel ?
Wevo's are on my list - did you get black or blue's ?
So up until 4k rpm the car drives exactly the same hey. Is the increase in power worth the cost ? How much faster would you say the car is on initial feel ?
12-07-2009, 10:56 PM
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Car looks awesome, Tjangi. Can't wait to read more driving reports. From the sounds of the weather headed your way, winter is definitely here, so be careful with all that torque ...
Wevo's are on my list - did you get black or blue's ?
So up until 4k rpm the car drives exactly the same hey. Is the increase in power worth the cost ? How much faster would you say the car is on initial feel ?
RS door panels and the recaros
12-07-2009, 11:00 PM
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Gappy - the car looks great! It was a pleasure to speak to you today and talk shop. Can't wait to see it in person once the winter is over and roads clean up. Talk to you soon.
