Getting desperate! Is a C2S with a tiptronic transmission worth it?
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BELIEVE IT !!! THE VALUES OF THE 10K AND UNDER 993 "S" CARS ARE STRONG !! BUT IT TAKES THE RIGHT COLOR,OPTIONS AND CONDITION OF COURSE TO PULL THE BIG MONEY REGARDLESS OF THE 12 YEAR OLD AGE BRACKET...OWNING ONE OF THE LAST AIR COOLED WIDE BODY CARS IS THE MIND SET..
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BELIEVE IT !!! THE VALUES OF THE 10K AND UNDER 993 "S" CARS ARE STRONG !! BUT IT TAKES THE RIGHT COLOR,OPTIONS AND CONDITION OF COURSE TO PULL THE BIG MONEY REGARDLESS OF THE 12 YEAR OLD AGE BRACKET...OWNING ONE OF THE LAST AIR COOLED WIDE BODY CARS IS THE MIND SET..![thumbup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/thumbup.gif)
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But if you do spend that $$ and actually use the car, then after you put on 10-20k more miles the value goes back down to the current street value rate of the 30-40k cars. It's almost like buying a new 997 (or any other expensive car) and watching it depreciate faster than a speeding bullet. Unless you park it and rarely drive it.
I'm guessing most here on RL are users and not collectors.
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this is the answer people say when they have never driven a 993 tiptronic.
and there have been loads of biased answers on this thread, without having tried a 993 tiptronic.
In any gear, above 8 kilometers per hour, torque converter is locked, unless whilst shifting.
In a 993 tiptronic, if you accelerate in first gear to 5000 rpm for example, and let off the gas, the car decelerates IN GEAR exactly as a manual gearbox with clutch released, until under 8 kmph, just before it starts to stall.
Contrary to what most who never tried a 993 tip imagine, when you are in fourth gear at low speed, and let off the gas, the car doesn't go in a pseudo Neutral gear as other automatic cars. It is NOT as if you stepped on the clutch. It stays in gear decelerating. In fourth, it decelerates until just when it is going to stall, it retrogrades down to third, and then second, etc. Thus converter locked.
There is one case where the converter stays locked under 8 kmph, it is under lateral acceleration, which brings us to the question.
If you spin, I would say it will react as a manual box in gear, and will lock the rear wheels from rolling backwards if converter still locked.
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I am probably one of them, a user. Give me a 1996-98 C2S or C4S with the factory aero kit, sport seats, good color and maintenance like valve guide, clutch has been done with less than 50K miles, clean records and in very good condition, between 36K to $40K, I will be all over it!
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#82
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wrong,
this is the answer people say when they have never driven a 993 tiptronic.
and there have been loads of biased answers on this thread, without having tried a 993 tiptronic.
In any gear, above 8 kilometers per hour, torque converter is locked, unless whilst shifting.
In a 993 tiptronic, if you accelerate in first gear to 5000 rpm for example, and let off the gas, the car decelerates IN GEAR exactly as a manual gearbox with clutch released, until under 8 kmph, just before it starts to stall.
Contrary to what most who never tried a 993 tip imagine, when you are in fourth gear at low speed, and let off the gas, the car doesn't go in a pseudo Neutral gear as other automatic cars. It is NOT as if you stepped on the clutch. It stays in gear decelerating. In fourth, it decelerates until just when it is going to stall, it retrogrades down to third, and then second, etc. Thus converter locked.
There is one case where the converter stays locked under 8 kmph, it is under lateral acceleration, which brings us to the question.
If you spin, I would say it will react as a manual box in gear, and will lock the rear wheels from rolling backwards if converter still locked.
this is the answer people say when they have never driven a 993 tiptronic.
and there have been loads of biased answers on this thread, without having tried a 993 tiptronic.
In any gear, above 8 kilometers per hour, torque converter is locked, unless whilst shifting.
In a 993 tiptronic, if you accelerate in first gear to 5000 rpm for example, and let off the gas, the car decelerates IN GEAR exactly as a manual gearbox with clutch released, until under 8 kmph, just before it starts to stall.
Contrary to what most who never tried a 993 tip imagine, when you are in fourth gear at low speed, and let off the gas, the car doesn't go in a pseudo Neutral gear as other automatic cars. It is NOT as if you stepped on the clutch. It stays in gear decelerating. In fourth, it decelerates until just when it is going to stall, it retrogrades down to third, and then second, etc. Thus converter locked.
There is one case where the converter stays locked under 8 kmph, it is under lateral acceleration, which brings us to the question.
If you spin, I would say it will react as a manual box in gear, and will lock the rear wheels from rolling backwards if converter still locked.
that said, why so defensive? You didn't buy the enthusiasts choice, and I'm sure you had your reasons for it.
Its ok man...as long as you like it.