Are hollow spokes worth it?
#16
I don't know where the "easily bent" comes from(?) Anybody have real stats? I've always heard it the other way around. And the roads in LA are, well, yeah, never mind. Let me just say they ain't too good.
I have them because I like the way they look. Plus they are a perfect fit for a lowered WB and 295/235. And I did not want to use spacers.
BUT, here's something that happened to me that you should watch out for: if the wheels have been refinished (or will be) BE SURE to have them done by somebody who is very good at it. Or, if they are used and the history is unknown, be sure to have them checked out carefully.
What can happen is that during refinishing, crud can get into a spoke thru the valve (they are hollow, after all) if the person's not careful. Or it can happen if there's been moisture and/or dirt introduced into a spoke during tire replacement, etc.. Any dirt or other material will mix with moisture and spin itself onto a spoke side and throw off your wheel balance permanently. Apparently it gets stuck/fused to a spoke side as the wheel spins.
This happened to me. I couldn't get a balance on one of the fronts. Luckily, the person who sold me the rim was apologetic and found me a new one, free of charge. He said it happens once in a while (he didn't refinish the fronts, just the rears and they're perfect.)
I'd be cautious and get them from somebody reputable or at least try to know the history behind them.
Anyway, just my 2 cents.....
PS: This refers to my experience with the 996TT hollows and not the 993......
I have them because I like the way they look. Plus they are a perfect fit for a lowered WB and 295/235. And I did not want to use spacers.
BUT, here's something that happened to me that you should watch out for: if the wheels have been refinished (or will be) BE SURE to have them done by somebody who is very good at it. Or, if they are used and the history is unknown, be sure to have them checked out carefully.
What can happen is that during refinishing, crud can get into a spoke thru the valve (they are hollow, after all) if the person's not careful. Or it can happen if there's been moisture and/or dirt introduced into a spoke during tire replacement, etc.. Any dirt or other material will mix with moisture and spin itself onto a spoke side and throw off your wheel balance permanently. Apparently it gets stuck/fused to a spoke side as the wheel spins.
This happened to me. I couldn't get a balance on one of the fronts. Luckily, the person who sold me the rim was apologetic and found me a new one, free of charge. He said it happens once in a while (he didn't refinish the fronts, just the rears and they're perfect.)
I'd be cautious and get them from somebody reputable or at least try to know the history behind them.
Anyway, just my 2 cents.....
PS: This refers to my experience with the 996TT hollows and not the 993......
Last edited by Canyon56; 06-03-2009 at 04:58 PM.
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Hey Kevin,
OT question, but where did you get that avatar photo? It looks like that was the one shot from our N meets S Cali Rennlist Rumble several years back?
Edward
OT question, but where did you get that avatar photo? It looks like that was the one shot from our N meets S Cali Rennlist Rumble several years back?
Edward
#19
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FWIW, I have solid spoke "turbo twists" and one of my rears went out of round a few years ago. IE the inside of the rim where it is not supported by the spokes got slightly bent. My garage was able to send it away for repair, and no problem since.
#20
FWIW...I have a set of hollow spoke turbo wheels in mint condition with good rubber (Bridgestone?...iwill have to double check) from my 97 turbo (gone). I would sell the set for $1500 plus shipping. email me at drlennyt@gmail.com and i will send pics. These ar OEM 993 hollow spoke turbo wheels.
BTW...these are not "weak". it would take a major impact with a curb or substantial pot-hole to bend them.
BTW...these are not "weak". it would take a major impact with a curb or substantial pot-hole to bend them.
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#21
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Hey guys,
So I have standard Turbo twists that are in rough shape (curb rash etc.) and I am thinking of either getting them refinished or possibly getting some Hollow Spoke twists. At this point I'm looking at about $170 - $200 a wheel for refinishing vs. $1000 for hollow spokes in OK condition. For those of you that have hollow spokes, do you think that its worth it to pay the extra 50 per wheel and have a wheel that might not be perfect? Has anyone had any experience with these in the northeast with our glorious pot holes? I put 4 new rims on my Mini over the course of 2 years and would not like to have the same thing happen with the Pcar. Thanks for the input.
Regards,
Kevin
So I have standard Turbo twists that are in rough shape (curb rash etc.) and I am thinking of either getting them refinished or possibly getting some Hollow Spoke twists. At this point I'm looking at about $170 - $200 a wheel for refinishing vs. $1000 for hollow spokes in OK condition. For those of you that have hollow spokes, do you think that its worth it to pay the extra 50 per wheel and have a wheel that might not be perfect? Has anyone had any experience with these in the northeast with our glorious pot holes? I put 4 new rims on my Mini over the course of 2 years and would not like to have the same thing happen with the Pcar. Thanks for the input.
Regards,
Kevin
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I changed from the oem 17" cup wheels. I purchased the wheels from a guy locally on Craigslist for $500. The wheels were definitely used. Lots of cosmetic damage and some minor out of roundness. I had them refinished and straightened by a place locally that specializes in wheel repair and refinishing. Apparently they refinish wheels for all the local Porsche dealers. The cost to straighten all 4 wheels to within original specification and powder coat was $400. The total cost for the wheel set was $900. I really like the look and feel/drive of my car with these wheels. I wish I could provide better info on the difference between the wheels but I also changed, tires, suspension (pss10), sways (MO30), and strut brace (Perfect Power).
Bob-
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What is the weight difference between the hollow spoke and solid spoke wheels?
I bought some hollow spokes and found they are 11 lbs per wheel lighter than the Speedlines. This reduction in unsprung weight really improved the ride quality.
I bought some hollow spokes and found they are 11 lbs per wheel lighter than the Speedlines. This reduction in unsprung weight really improved the ride quality.
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#28
The hollow spoke wheels are smooth across the back side of the spokes and have a solid stem on the air valves. The non-solid wheels have groves in the back sides of the spokes.
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The difference in handling - crisper turn in - was worth it to me when I ordered my 993 with them.
It takes a deep and sharp pothole to dent one, but I did. Got it reshaped at
http://www.wheeltechniques.com/wheelrepair.html
About $220 per wheel, but that was about 10 years ago.
Maybe you have someone like them local to you.
It takes a deep and sharp pothole to dent one, but I did. Got it reshaped at
http://www.wheeltechniques.com/wheelrepair.html
About $220 per wheel, but that was about 10 years ago.
Maybe you have someone like them local to you.
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