split boot on rear toe arm ?
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Racer
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split boot on rear toe arm ?
would you say i should get an new arm ? boot is split in one place and cracking badly in another.. its also creased badly as if something has been folding up against it all this time. The ball joint moves fine though... no ganularity or friction there.
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Hi Jackal,
We meet again. If the boots are knackered you're on borrowed time with them. I replaced both mine a month or so ago as the drivers side one had some minor play. I'm not sure you can get new boots but I still have the old ones and you're welcome to them if you can get the boots off. The passenger side one is okay I think and they're interchangeable.
As for the rose-jointed jobs, i did consider those and they don't work out any more expensive than OEM ones except the exchange rate isn't working for us any more plus they will make the car much more hardcore. I think also they're best done with the other arms or you end up putting more strain on the bits with rubber still left in them.
Just a thought.
Regards
GR
We meet again. If the boots are knackered you're on borrowed time with them. I replaced both mine a month or so ago as the drivers side one had some minor play. I'm not sure you can get new boots but I still have the old ones and you're welcome to them if you can get the boots off. The passenger side one is okay I think and they're interchangeable.
As for the rose-jointed jobs, i did consider those and they don't work out any more expensive than OEM ones except the exchange rate isn't working for us any more plus they will make the car much more hardcore. I think also they're best done with the other arms or you end up putting more strain on the bits with rubber still left in them.
Just a thought.
Regards
GR
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As to what causes that twisted boot appearance, I'm speculating that the engine was dropped at some point .... and that the wrench only removed the inner toe link bolt, and cranked the links downward without loosening the links outer ball joint. If so done, the boot will ultimately fail ....
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I believe the RS uses the same toe links as the standard car so Porsche did not feel there would be much gained by changing them. Bill Verbung will know for sure! The rear "A" arms are different, so Porsche certainly were not above making detail changes to the rear suspension. I have no direct experience of the rose jointed link in a 993 but every other car I've been in that used them made the car unbearable for UK roads. The RS as you know uses solid upper mounts for the dampers, I wouldn't go much beyond this. You can use the solid subframe mounting kit but even this will be hard for regular use and requires major dissassembly.
Another thing to note is insurance. The ERP/Tarret will be obvious.
By the way, if your toe eccentrics have 8.8 on the bolt heads you need to update them to the newer spec ones.
Regards
GR
Another thing to note is insurance. The ERP/Tarret will be obvious.
By the way, if your toe eccentrics have 8.8 on the bolt heads you need to update them to the newer spec ones.
Regards
GR
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I have ERP's solid mounts and they feel no different on the street. My wrench said they weren't that hard to install either. I think it's a good mod.
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now i am confused !
Any ideas how much teh ERP ones are. With so many arms there sharing the load can just the one with solid bushings really make that much difference ?
and thanks Guards, eccentircs are grade 10.9 so no probs there
Any ideas how much teh ERP ones are. With so many arms there sharing the load can just the one with solid bushings really make that much difference ?
and thanks Guards, eccentircs are grade 10.9 so no probs there
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For the toe arms, your choices are,
- stock oem w/ rubber bush
- Tarret w/ stock adjusters, monoball end
- Tarret w/ locks and turnbuckle adjusters, monoball end
- ERP, locks(I think) and turnbuckle adjusters, monoball end
Best bang is choice 3
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I agree, I have the ERP solid sides too. They are not objectionable at all and do tighten up the precision of the suspension. The install isn't too bad w/ the right tools
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Jackal,
the side mounts are solid mounts for the subframe. Ninemeister do them if your interested. Colin swears by them but they, like the solid (not RS) engine mounts, do put an additional load on the frame and it's not unknown for cracks to appear. Not a problem on smooth roads but I'm not so sure about our third world country roads.
The toe links are easy enough to take out if you don't like them but the subframe mounts are not. I'd be inclined to try them on someone else's before deciding for sure. Someone on the 911uk site has them fitted, can't remember who though.
Best wishes
GR
the side mounts are solid mounts for the subframe. Ninemeister do them if your interested. Colin swears by them but they, like the solid (not RS) engine mounts, do put an additional load on the frame and it's not unknown for cracks to appear. Not a problem on smooth roads but I'm not so sure about our third world country roads.
The toe links are easy enough to take out if you don't like them but the subframe mounts are not. I'd be inclined to try them on someone else's before deciding for sure. Someone on the 911uk site has them fitted, can't remember who though.
Best wishes
GR
