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Old 04-02-2010, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by VMXWinn
+2 On the Redline. I was having the same issues with the 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd (to a lesser degree) when the gearbox was cold and would almost go away when warm. Changed to the Redline NS and it all went away. Nice shifting cold or hot. SOLD!!!!
This describes my situation as well, except 2nd to 3rd is worse than 1st to 2nd... Mine had a mystery lube (M1 was listed on the service receipt,,,) in it upon my purchase, switched to Royal Purple about a year ago with no real difference in symptoms.

Originally Posted by Augustus Davies
...would have tried Redline before but was advised against it from a Porsche mechanic who also builds Porsche race cars...said Redline creates a yellow powder on the gears and shafts etc...making it a real bitch to clean during a re-build...any comments?....Steve Wienier??..
I remember hearing this, but I thought it was specific to the ShockProof version, not the NS (No-Slip) version.

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Did not work in my box. I guess it's time for new synchros
That sucks. I will try the NS and report back.
Old 04-02-2010, 09:36 PM
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A little update on my transmission. In May 08, it popped out of 5th, and repeated that behavior every time it was shifted into 5th. My favorite shop did the repair, and found that the shift fork pinch bolt was not correctly torqued, probably from the factory, "While we were in there", 5/6 shift sleeve and all synchros were replaced, for a total of $2500. This was at 40,000 miles. The shop commented that the clutch still looked new.
Old 05-17-2010, 01:20 PM
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How many quarts of gear lube to refill the gearbox after draining the old lube?
Old 05-17-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Michaelc
How many quarts of gear lube to refill the gearbox after draining the old lube?
Just under 4. I change my tranny oil every winter (Mobil1 Delvac 75/90) and have the car level, on stands. After draining the gallon into the tranny, I remove the fill hose and let the excess weep out into my drain pan.


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Andreas,

Thanks for the timely info.
Old 05-17-2010, 11:44 PM
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One trick to help the grinding when shifting from 1st to 2nd when the tranny is cold:

Park the car with the tranny in 2nd gear.

It forces the oil out of the 2nd gearset apparently, and it responds better during the first few shifts, .and by then things are warming up in there.

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Old 05-18-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete Lech
One trick to help the grinding when shifting from 1st to 2nd when the tranny is cold:

Park the car with the tranny in 2nd gear.

It foprces the oil out of the 2nd gearset apparently, and it responds better during the first few shifts, .and by then things are warming up in there.
I'll have to try that. Right now I just shift into neutral from 1st and then into 2nd.
Old 07-07-2010, 11:53 AM
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Default Changed to Redline 75-90 NS - much better

I just changed my transmission fluid from the Mobil 1 to Redline 75-90 NS. While the temps are in the 70s here now, and it may be different with cooler temperatures, I did notice a significant reduction in the 1st to 2nd gear grinding immediately.

The tranny took all 4 quarts with nothing running out of the fill hole when I removed the "oil bong" I made from a length of clear plastic tubing.

BTW, the Redline fluid is clear in color and has no sulfur smell.
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me too
Redline NS solved gronchy 2 - 3 shift.

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Old 07-07-2010, 06:59 PM
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I had a similar improvement with redline 75-90 NS. I've tried a number of gear oils over the last 3 years to help with notchy shifting in 1 and 2. The redline works best for me. It did not eliminate the problem by far but a sifnificant improvement.

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Originally Posted by Pete Lech
I just changed my transmission fluid from the Mobil 1 to Redline 75-90 NS. While the temps are in the 70s here now, and it may be different with cooler temperatures, I did notice a significant reduction in the 1st to 2nd gear grinding immediately.

The tranny took all 4 quarts with nothing running out of the fill hole when I removed the "oil bong" I made from a length of clear plastic tubing.

BTW, the Redline fluid is clear in color and has no sulfur smell.
+1 I changed mine last week with Redline 75-90 NS. It was $52 for a gallon but worth it. Tranny shifts so smooth now!
Old 07-07-2010, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Augustus Davies
...would have tried Redline before but was advised against it from a Porsche mechanic who also builds Porsche race cars...said Redline creates a yellow powder on the gears and shafts etc...making it a real bitch to clean during a re-build...any comments?....Steve Weiner??..
Re-reading this thread,....

That mechanic was only partially correct and his statement lacked context,.....

Using Redline GL-4 lubes such as MTL & MTL-90 can attack the brass syncros and create some of that mess in the transmission. Such lubricants are totally inappropriate for ANY Porsche transmission as these all require a GL-5 to protect the ring & pinion gears.

75w-90, the NS product, or even Shockproof (racing only) is OK as these are all GL-5's.
Old 07-08-2010, 04:03 AM
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FWIW, this thread caught my eye since I just had my tranny oil replaced with a service last weekend.

My mechanic suggested using Mobil 1 replacing the Swepco that was in there. I noticed an immediate improvement in gear changes when cold shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. Not perfect, but certainly better than it was.
Old 07-08-2010, 04:27 AM
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I love RL.
To think that all this time I was thinking I was going to be up for big bucks to have my gearbox repaired. I'm ordering some of this oil tomorrow first thing.
Old 07-08-2010, 06:02 AM
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I have some Redline in the garage just waiting to be put in.


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