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Old 04-21-2009, 08:03 AM
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Got these done on my car. The guy uses your original parts and applies the carbon fibre finish to them. Not that expensive either!!
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Check out the GruppeM products, they also do CF brake ducts: http://www.gruppem.co.jp/ja/product/aero/aero_porsche.html

I would love to see a picture of a silver 993 with carbon front hood> Got any.
This is the best made hood I've seen available for our cars and at a very good price: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Porsche-911-96...3A1|240%3A1318
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Does anyone make the CF products with a matte finish over the carbon? I'm not a big fan of the high glossy stuff.
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Originally Posted by future
Check out the GruppeM products, they also do CF brake ducts: http://www.gruppem.co.jp/ja/product/aero/aero_porsche.html

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Lots of nice looking stuff but the ducts in carbon are roughly $3k USD!
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Does anyone make the CF products with a matte finish over the carbon?
Rub CF parts down with 600 then 1000 grit wet and dry paper then apply: http://www.tradeproducts.co.uk/pdf/S...0Clearcoat.pdf (this is what we use)

It is easy to get a semi-satin finish with pre-preg CF during manufacture
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Lots of nice looking stuff but the ducts in carbon are roughly $3k USD!
AGREED Chris - At 3k USD they won't be selling many of those

I had a GruppeM titanium exhaust on a M3 CSL 4 years ago and it was incredible!!!

Go check out C-West Japan as they used to do stuff for the 993 under SunZero brand - I can only find 996 parts on there website now though.
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Originally Posted by chris walrod
Lots of nice looking stuff but the ducts in carbon are roughly $3k USD!
You missplaced a decimal point, they work out at $300 not $3k (FRP). The carbon fibre ones are $500. Still pretty pricy, makes the RS wings around the $3k mark...
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Here is an example of a nice finish from proper polished tooling, not clear coated post cure

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That wheel is incredible, will it fit the 993?
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Here is an example of a nice finish from proper polished tooling, not clear coated post cure
Stunning mate stunning
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Originally Posted by chris walrod
Here is an example of a nice finish from proper polished tooling, not clear coated post cure
Now that is what I'm talking about!
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Originally Posted by aribop
Does anyone make the CF products with a matte finish over the carbon? I'm not a big fan of the high glossy stuff.
Kind of like the CF in the new S5? I was thinking the same thing.
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Here are a couple of CF steering wheels made by Reverie:





http://www.reverie.ltd.uk/
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The factory pieces could be easily scanned into CAD and made quickly from compression molded CF. The issue is that the tooling/mold costs are only reasonable in high quantities. I don't think you would ever get there with hand laid CF as it would be too labor intensive thus too expensive. The question is whether the demand would be there at a reasonable price, which I would say no due to the low numbers of the 993s and 964s and the even less owners that would spring $$ for CF interior. However, there are some parts that would be more desirable than others such as the center console pieces and possibly door handles. If you had these pieces only, you may be able to get all the pieces out of a single mold which would reduce the tooling costs. Also, to be honest, I don't know if I would ever be willing to make the Airbag pieces... that is a lot of liability if things don't go right when the airbag deploys (potentially lethal).
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a long time ago, in a galazxy far far away, I made some tooling for these very ducts. Sadly, the shape of them lends itself to 'stick' (due simply to lack of draft in some areas) onto the tool. The tool was obviously released properly, just had to mangle the parts that were coming off of them -- I gave up.

That said, there is the possibilty of trying once again, just takes a lot of time to do so.

And that steering wheel, its worth two 3.8L kits


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