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Old 10-25-2011, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by il pirata
Any update on getting access to the rear suspension parts?


To make a long story short,
two RS rear L + R side panels are US $2250 from dealer
the bushings for those:
4 RS bushings per side / 8 total RS bushings for both side panels are $550 shipped

8 RS small bushings for rear $330 shipped
Front A arms L + R so 4 x RS bushes $230 shipped

The few rennlisters who asked me to get the whole RS bushes, I made sure they did.
But since it is in good spirit, I did not think of organizing anything.
Old 10-25-2011, 09:42 AM
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Just a reminder
The front 964/993 A arms have 2 bushes, a leading and trailing. Only the trailing bush on the RS/Cup is stiffer sport rubber, the leading bush is the same on all.

Similarly on the 993 rear A arm, the RS has a stiffer rear bush, the leading monoball-like joint is the same on both.

You can replace all 3 of these w/ Elephant Racing sport rubber versions for excellent wheel control

Exhibit A, all RS pieces except the 4 front A arm bushs which are Elephant sport versions
Old 10-25-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
Just a reminder
The front 964/993 A arms have 2 bushes, a leading and trailing. Only the trailing bush on the RS/Cup is stiffer sport rubber, the leading bush is the same on all.
For the leading bush, the bushing manufacture produces a RS hardness bush.
Maybe it was not on the RS, it was for another model, but the bushing factory produces it for Porsche, and it is in their product line. 85 shores.
Next time I order from them, I will take two front for you, and send at no cost.
you will test them and let us know maybe. seriously
I sent some to rennlisters maybe they can chime in.


...and then, there was this;

http://www.shark-motorsport.de/downl...Querlenker.pdf

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Old 10-25-2011, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by geolab
Are you able to get this translated, looks interesting.... Do you know how much this is?
Old 10-25-2011, 01:11 PM
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Uniball-Vorderachs-Querlenker SM-993-104-01-001 Querlenker komplett SM-993-104-11-001 Uniball-Gelenklager-Satz Einzelteil

Für den Rennsport und sportlich-kompromisslosen Fahrer. Die originalen, weichen Gummilager werden durch geschraubte, extrem steife wartungsfreie Uniball-Gelenklager ersetzt. Ergänzend kommt eine Druckstrebe zum Einsatz, welche die auftretenden Kräfte zusätzlich in den steifen Loslagerteil des Achskörpers einleitet. Durch diese Kombination wird die Elastizität und das Eigenlenkverhalten des Querlenkers und dessen Anbindung auf ein Minimum reduziert für aggressives Einlenkverhalten und direktes Feedback des Fahrzeuges. Durch die extrem steife Anbindung ist mit Komforteinbußen zu rechnen. Die Shark Querlenker sind ohne Umarbeit am Fahrzeug gegen die originalen Querlenker tauschbar.

Uniball bushes for motorsport use / hard core street driving. The soft/compliant standard bushes are replaced with extremely stiff ,maintenance free, uniball bearings. In addition a stiffening rod is fitted to feed/spread loads into the suspension mounting cradle. The combination of the above all but eliminates elasticity, geometry changes and stiction. It provides very agressive turn-in and direct feed back on your car's behaviour. Please be prepared for a significant increase in NVH / reduction of comfort.

Price: 1761 Euros.....sure beats the price of a pair of Walrod bushes;-)
Old 10-25-2011, 06:29 PM
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Thanks evoderby....... really appreciated. Little on the expensive side, I will stick with Chris's solution.
Old 10-25-2011, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trophy
Thanks evoderby....... really appreciated. Little on the expensive side, I will stick with Chris's solution.
I like the idea of sealed spherical joints, too bad Rennline and ERP don't have total sealed solutions
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Just another happy customer here - was debating these versus the ERP sport hardness and I'm glad I went with these. The installer was impressed by them - and I couldn't be happier with the results. Thanks Chris!
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I am about to rebuild mine for the first time since installation, they have been in for approx 3 years, I am interested to see if there is any wear etc...
Old 12-24-2011, 04:47 PM
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Some might use the holiday season for putting Walrod bushings in. I just did it the second time this year for my convertible and just wanted to point out some of the items that have been mentioned in this thread. Last time I struggled a little bit with the first arm to chisel out the big metal sleeve. This time it was the easiest part of the job. Took me about 25 minutes for both sides and there are almost no markings inside which speaks for itself. I used the "open the can" method by setting two cuts with the saw but this time I increased the distance to about 10mm. Be patient to make proper cuts with a good hack saw. A couple of more minutes here can save hours with the chisel. Ask me how I know. Than just chisel down between the cuts. The attached picture shows the result. I really did not look forward to this step but at the end it took much longer to clean the arms ....


Merry Christmas
Old 12-24-2011, 06:48 PM
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Wish I'd seen this a week ago. Those buggers were a beach to get out!
Old 12-24-2011, 07:09 PM
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You sold me two sets about six months ago.I have them on my RS clone and the turbo.They are a major improvement and something I would recommend to every 993 owner.Thanks and have a happy holiday.-MP
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any tips/traps on getting the control arms out to start this job?
(edit) just found my post in this tthread from 2008 when I ordred the bushings, still haven't fitted them !!

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Old 03-18-2012, 09:09 PM
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On a side note, why doesnt Chris W produce other bushes as well? I have his lower control arm bushings and am very pleased

So Chris, if you make some other products Ill jump in! Tnx
Old 03-18-2012, 10:10 PM
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[QUOTE=AB-Oz;9371925]any tips/traps on getting the control arms out to start this job?
I installed the Walrod bushings last last week and didn't have any problems. I used the instructions on FD Motorsports website. Look @ pgs. 11,12, and 13. Reverse the order of the work and that's pretty much how you get them off.


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