OT: Becareful buying sight unseen
#16
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i will only buy from the owner...period....have bought most of my cars unseen and have driven/flown up and driven back.....i have a knack and trust my "gut" after speaking to someone for a few minutes and it has not let me down so far
#17
Drifting
I have to agree. I've met enough bs'rs to pick them out pretty quick. Usually a few key questions will tell you how much they really know about the car. If they have no records and haven't owned it long how much can they know? Their claims are obviously worthless. I did buy a car a few years back sight unseen (it was cheap so no big risk). The owner said it wasn't a rusty car. I ended up totally restoring it including replacing the floors, fenders, quarter panels and trunk floor. I think I broke even on it in the end so no loss. I'm smarter now.
#19
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If anyone is willing to wade through all the posts on Pelican and early911sregistry.com, it is pretty interesting reading. Looks like both parties are going to turn it over to 3rd party mechanic for a ruling on "just how bad" the rust is.
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I read through all of the posts last night, both forums and see a trend of poor selling tactics by the seller. Others have come out of the woodwork with other shady details from previous sales.
Sounds as though the buyer did get a little emotional, hard not to. I know the early E's are getting good money, but a little surprised at how much they are fetching.
To me, the best solution would be to keep the car provided both agree to a partial refund, something that is fair to both sides that would make this car a worthy, solid car. Shipping it back to the seller would just tally up more non-value adding costs. With the recent bad press about the seller and this car, I doubt it would be easy for him to resell it irregardless of how nice the car really is. He certainly wont see $35K if resold.
Sounds as though the buyer did get a little emotional, hard not to. I know the early E's are getting good money, but a little surprised at how much they are fetching.
To me, the best solution would be to keep the car provided both agree to a partial refund, something that is fair to both sides that would make this car a worthy, solid car. Shipping it back to the seller would just tally up more non-value adding costs. With the recent bad press about the seller and this car, I doubt it would be easy for him to resell it irregardless of how nice the car really is. He certainly wont see $35K if resold.
#21
Burning Brakes
A little more than one year ago when i was looking for a 993 a guy in LA with an English accent had a 993 listed on Ebay.
I called him to get the details about the car, he stated that the car was in a immaculate condition and that he had the complete service record and receipts for for the services done.
I had my brother fly from Phoenix to LA to check out the car as everything sounded right.
The seller came to the hotel my brother was staying in to show him the car, long story short, the car was a mess, although the car was VERY dirty my brother could clearly see that some parts had been repainted and that the car was far away from being in the condition promised.
When my brother asked to see the service record the seller told him that it had been lost the night before and he would just send the papers when they would be found.
My brother gave him an offer 10K USD under the asking price which got the guy pretty mad
My brother and I are 99% sure that this is the same guy reoccurring.
Luckily i found the SY 993 (avatar) through Rennlist and the car was 100% as the seller had described it, my brother flew from Phoenix to Minneapolis and drove it back to Ph
I called him to get the details about the car, he stated that the car was in a immaculate condition and that he had the complete service record and receipts for for the services done.
I had my brother fly from Phoenix to LA to check out the car as everything sounded right.
The seller came to the hotel my brother was staying in to show him the car, long story short, the car was a mess, although the car was VERY dirty my brother could clearly see that some parts had been repainted and that the car was far away from being in the condition promised.
When my brother asked to see the service record the seller told him that it had been lost the night before and he would just send the papers when they would be found.
My brother gave him an offer 10K USD under the asking price which got the guy pretty mad
My brother and I are 99% sure that this is the same guy reoccurring.
Luckily i found the SY 993 (avatar) through Rennlist and the car was 100% as the seller had described it, my brother flew from Phoenix to Minneapolis and drove it back to Ph
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Bad guy end's up in jail...
UPDATE !!!
Hello all.
I am back from my trial in York SC.
To make a long story short the guy that defrauded me : Marion Branham got 10 years in jail !!! he was offered 5 years if he could pay me back all of my money within 24 hours but his wife didn't so he is doing 10 years now.
I am happy, although 10 years is kind off much but at least he cannot defraud anyone else right now.
thanks,
Bas
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...an-member.html
Hello all.
I am back from my trial in York SC.
To make a long story short the guy that defrauded me : Marion Branham got 10 years in jail !!! he was offered 5 years if he could pay me back all of my money within 24 hours but his wife didn't so he is doing 10 years now.
I am happy, although 10 years is kind off much but at least he cannot defraud anyone else right now.
thanks,
Bas
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...an-member.html
#23
WOW. 10 YEARS. That's a long time for $20,000. I wish our justice system was like yours (UK).
Mind you how much does it cost the tax payer to keep a crook behind bars for this long.
Hope you get some money out of him.
Mind you how much does it cost the tax payer to keep a crook behind bars for this long.
Hope you get some money out of him.
Last edited by Bouzoukikid; 07-08-2010 at 11:50 AM.