BILSTEIN PSS10
12-14-2007, 09:14 PM
#31
Addicted Specialist
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Well the **** certainly *looks* more robust, and clearly defined clickstops is a definite improvement. If the **** /clicking issue alone is fixed, I'd say it's a good enough deal. As for more adjustability, the 9s are great IMHO, and I know I can certainly feel the diff between, say, a 4-5 or 5-6, but even if you can't, I'm pretty sure you could feel the diff between 4 to a 6 ...pretty apparent over choppy/irregular pavement, really. Over smooth roads I agree it's tough to discern. A "10" range is academic.
Funny thing about adjustability, though. I found that once I finally dialed mine in the way I liked it, I never stiffened it for the track; just left it the same for street and track ...I guess that kinda defeats the purpose of having the ****, eh? I wonder how many others did the same. So maybe the whole **** issue (other than durability) really is moot for most.
Edward
Funny thing about adjustability, though. I found that once I finally dialed mine in the way I liked it, I never stiffened it for the track; just left it the same for street and track ...I guess that kinda defeats the purpose of having the ****, eh? I wonder how many others did the same. So maybe the whole **** issue (other than durability) really is moot for most.
Edward
12-14-2007, 10:44 PM
#33
Rennlist Member
Understanding we haven't seen them, it sounds like they'll be a little friendlier by improving the stupid ****, but with no important difference in functionality. Doesn't seem like a lot to get worked up over. Would prefer if they put their energies resolving the quality and delivery quirks that others reported.
My 2Cents.
My 2Cents.
12-15-2007, 03:28 AM
#34
Rennlist Member
The Straight Scoop....Really, well sort of!
This info came directly from a source at thyssen krupp They own Bilstein as most know. This person "guesses" from 4 to 6 months for the PSS 10 to be available for the 993 car....he is asking another in house source to confirm. You heard this sketchy information here, first!!!!!
12-15-2007, 11:44 AM
#35
I'm Still Jenny
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Funny thing about adjustability, though. I found that once I finally dialed mine in the way I liked it, I never stiffened it for the track; just left it the same for street and track ...I guess that kinda defeats the purpose of having the ****, eh? I wonder how many others did the same. So maybe the whole **** issue (other than durability) really is moot for most.
01-13-2008, 11:45 PM
#36
Nordschleife Master
Found this on the Tire Rack site:
Bilstein PSS10 Coil-Over Kit for your 1998 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe
Ride Height: Threaded Adjustment
Note: Fully adjustable.
Price: $2,277.00 (kit)
Estimated Availability: 02/22/08
Manufacturer Part #: F4-GM5-D268-H0
Ride Height: Threaded Adjustment
Note: Fully adjustable.
Price: $2,277.00 (kit)
Estimated Availability: 02/22/08
Manufacturer Part #: F4-GM5-D268-H0
01-14-2008, 03:53 AM
#37
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Last edited by geolab; 03-12-2008 at 11:08 AM.
01-14-2008, 11:19 AM
#38
Rennlist Member
If I were shopping for PSS9/PSS10, I'd definitely wait to see what exactly bilstein changed with the damping. They've put up the damping graphs for each setting on the PSS9 (see here), so I'd wait to see it for the PSS10 before buying either. If the only difference is a nice pretty **** that has better detents... then save your $$ and buy PSS9.
01-14-2008, 03:31 PM
#39
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,098
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
anybody seeing any deals on PSS9's?
or...
anyone feel like getting a group buy together to offload some PSS9's from dealers to make room for PSS10's?
or...
anyone feel like getting a group buy together to offload some PSS9's from dealers to make room for PSS10's?
01-14-2008, 05:57 PM
#40
Rennlist Member
I might be interested in a group buy but I suggest waiting a couple months might be a good idea until we see how it shakes out.
01-21-2008, 07:24 PM
#41
According to the Bilstein rep at the PRI show last week in Florida, the PSS10 kits for the 993 will be available "very shortly" (some distributors may already have them). They are not making kits for 964 and earlier 911s. This release apparently pissed off a lot of the distributors who were blindsided with this news, especially those that recently ordered or who carry a large inventory of the PSS9 kits (sorry Gert).
I would not order a PSS9 kit right now, especially at full price. You will likely see big discounts on the PSS9 kits from distributors that have a large inventory right now.
Apparently, the new PSS10 kits will have the same spring rates, but improvements have been made in the dampening adjustments, not only by increasing the number of adjustments (now 10), but also apparently correcting the common complaint of barely perceptable differences between clicks. It also has a much cooler **** (but who knows if it will be durable and not end up falling off).
I had actually ordered a set of PSS9s two weeks ago. I only heard about the PSS10s while the set was enroute. Fortunately, I had the shop put a hold on the process untill we had more information. After returning from PRI, my shop gave me the update on the PSS10 story.
Anyway, the point is moot for me now... as I changed my mind and decided on JICs (installing them today as we speak).
I would not order a PSS9 kit right now, especially at full price. You will likely see big discounts on the PSS9 kits from distributors that have a large inventory right now.
Apparently, the new PSS10 kits will have the same spring rates, but improvements have been made in the dampening adjustments, not only by increasing the number of adjustments (now 10), but also apparently correcting the common complaint of barely perceptable differences between clicks. It also has a much cooler **** (but who knows if it will be durable and not end up falling off).
I had actually ordered a set of PSS9s two weeks ago. I only heard about the PSS10s while the set was enroute. Fortunately, I had the shop put a hold on the process untill we had more information. After returning from PRI, my shop gave me the update on the PSS10 story.
Anyway, the point is moot for me now... as I changed my mind and decided on JICs (installing them today as we speak).
What made you switch from the Bilsteins to JIC's?? Just curious....
01-27-2008, 11:32 PM
#42
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sammamish, WA
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Isnt there a single vendor who can do a group buy for around 1200 or so.?
