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Old 10-30-2007, 09:14 PM
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I posted up a GB for pedals from ultimate pedals. It was taken down without warning by a moderator "Randy V".

His exact pm to me:

Per the Charter:

https://rennlist.com/charter.htm

Item 9.


Your Group Buy post has been removed.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=388006

Next time, check with the Admin before doing this.

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A GB thru Ultimate Pedals was allowed and successful in the past. I read NO complaints....meanwhile a GB from maxspeed was allowed and things did go wrong. That too was allowed! I see people posting ads for thier freinds who are not members....those are allowed also.

I try to save the community a few bucks from a reputable supplier ( which I have absolutely no relation to), and I get this.......I am appauled and insulted. I will not be renewing my membership if this is the way things continue to be run. I will post and read posts for free.

Why is this group buy removed? Perhaps RL is biased or had a personal bad experience...who knows....

perhaps the moderator can find me the exact same pedals, same options, same design, same composition, same service for the same price...... from a sponsor for the same price offered by ultimate pedals.

They will probably want remove this thread too, but it is my right to state my opinion in an open forum.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:22 PM
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um......was your group buy gonna use a RL sponsor?

I read the charter......here is number 9

# You may not post links to Rennlist 'deals' and/or "group buys" offered by non-supporting Commercial Vendors or non-Members targeted at Rennlist subscribers. More times then not, folks are asked to do that for the "free advertising" that the Vendor enjoys - and the site Administrator has no way of contacting either party should something not be fulfilled. Also - This includes links to your e-Bay Auctions! DO NOT POST THEM as "Hey - check these out - I just saw these!".
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:29 PM
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Shoot a PM to John D. Hopefully, he can resolve everything.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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This must be a mistake. We have had a group buy at least once here prior to this for Ultimate Pedals. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=35947

MaxSpeed is not a sponsor here either... actually, there are often GBs with non-sponsor suppliers.
Very odd.
I am sure it will get cleared up.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:34 PM
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Don't get your knickers in a twist. You were trying to help, but it's not always clear to the admins since there are people who exploit the site in this way. That's why the rules are there.
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eh, it all doesn't seem worth getting in a state of high dudgeon to me... maybe Randy misinterpreted the Charter, maybe you did, whatever... it's all small beer.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:42 PM
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I didnt freak out right away....I tried to explain my case, and got another empty and vague reply:

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Randy,

there was an Ultimate Pedals GB in the [ast and it was quite successful. What is the difference this time?

I am not promoting anyone. I just want to get a discount and let the community benefit from it too...

Also, there was a huge maxspeed GB that went bad here:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...light=maxspeed

and they are not a RL sponsor!

sorry.....didnt know I had to check with you guys 1st. Is there any wau we can keep it running?

please elaborate!

thanks,
sam

Here is the list of Rennlist Sponsors:

https://rennlist.com/sponsors.html

As you can see, Maxspeed is not one of them either.

There are reasons why GBs for non-Sponsors is prohibited - Rennlist has no recourse to protect its Members in the event the GB goes sour, and the non-Sponsor GB often is of an item offered by a paying Sponsor.

Please read the Charter item I had previously supplied - it explains it all pretty well.

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something strange is afoot at the Circle-K...

if this is going to be strictly enforced (hasn't been in the past) or is a new item (I don't read the charter on a regular basis) then this could really rain on many a GB parade.
There have been numerous GBs in the past with non-sponsoring vendors. Maybe we just got lucky and slid it past folks? I kinda doubt it.
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I have PM'ed John D.....lets see what comes of this. I have calmed down now and await the resolution.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
something strange is afoot at the Circle-K...
and the clock is always ticking in san demus dude....
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
Also - This includes links to your e-Bay Auctions! DO NOT POST THEM as "Hey - check these out - I just saw these!".
Umm...never knew...do you know how many of these are posted here every week? and none get deleted?

I think the only one that I can recall is the one by "Royalty" and his "rare" turbo wing that he was trying to sell. And that one wasn't deleted, he just got his royal *** kicked out.
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Originally Posted by cabrio993
Umm...never knew...do you know how many of these are posted here every week? and none get deleted?

I think the only one that I can recall is the one by "Royalty" and his "rare" turbo wing that he was trying to sell. And that one wasn't deleted, he just got his royal *** kicked out.
I just p0sted rule number 9 of the charter.
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Originally Posted by Phil
I just p0sted rule number 9 of the charter.
PHIL,

thanks, we read the charter....the question is why did they decide to enforce it TODAY, when this has been going on for years.....
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:32 PM
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I think the only one that I can recall is the one by "Royalty" and his "rare" turbo wing that he was trying to sell. And that one wasn't deleted, he just got his royal *** kicked out.
No kidding. I remember that post...what a turd.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
I just p0sted rule number 9 of the charter.
I know, I'm not shooting the messenger.

Thanks for posting it. I just didn't know about this particular ebay rule. It seems that gets ignored more often than none.

Same goes for the Group Buy. I see them going on all the time for non sponsored vendors. Maxspeeds pedals and armateur gauge rings come to mind.
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