95 or 96
10-19-2007, 08:05 PM
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95 or 96
i may sell my 87.I am looking at a 95 c4 or a 96 c2..both have about 83xxx miles...what do you guys think...i have read that the 96-on have had some problems that have led to top end rebuilds...is the 95 included in this..i don't mind a c4..the price range is very close also so not an issue..the extra power is not important for me either..well..thanks,j
10-19-2007, 10:16 PM
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There are a lot of threads on this. The '95 is also subject to clogging of the SAI ports, but the OBD-1 doesn't look at it, so you won't get an error code, and will be able to pass smog inspection. Some have had success cleaning the SAI ports, and have avoided a top end overhaul. The 96+ has the Varioram induction and makes a bit more power. 95's are easier to chip and don't have the immobilizer issues. 95's also have the basket handle. If you do a search, you'll find more. IMHO, there are pros and cons for both, so buy the better car as you see it.
10-20-2007, 04:59 AM
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There are a lot of threads on this. The '95 is also subject to clogging of the SAI ports, but the OBD-1 doesn't look at it, so you won't get an error code, and will be able to pass smog inspection. Some have had success cleaning the SAI ports, and have avoided a top end overhaul. The 96+ has the Varioram induction and makes a bit more power. 95's are easier to chip and don't have the immobilizer issues. 95's also have the basket handle. If you do a search, you'll find more. IMHO, there are pros and cons for both, so buy the better car as you see it.
10-20-2007, 09:44 AM
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Starting at some point in late '95, the basket handle was superseded by the high-mount light. Targas & Cabs kept the basket handle though.
I almost ignored the 993 I eventually purchased because of the basket handle. Sage advice from a certain rapscallion with a Polar Silver '95 convinced me that I was nuts for overlooking an otherwise super car.
So - go for the '95!
Andreas
I almost ignored the 993 I eventually purchased because of the basket handle. Sage advice from a certain rapscallion with a Polar Silver '95 convinced me that I was nuts for overlooking an otherwise super car.
So - go for the '95!
Andreas
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10-20-2007, 10:50 AM
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Starting at some point in late '95, the basket handle was superseded by the high-mount light. Targas & Cabs kept the basket handle though.
I almost ignored the 993 I eventually purchased because of the basket handle. Sage advice from a certain rapscallion with a Polar Silver '95 convinced me that I was nuts for overlooking an otherwise super car.
So - go for the '95!
Andreas
I almost ignored the 993 I eventually purchased because of the basket handle. Sage advice from a certain rapscallion with a Polar Silver '95 convinced me that I was nuts for overlooking an otherwise super car.
So - go for the '95!
Andreas
10-20-2007, 11:13 AM
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I almost ignored the 993 I eventually purchased because of the basket handle
10-20-2007, 06:09 PM
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james, my 87 is an amazingly great car..its been trouble free and is an absolute blast to drive..i have a dansk exhaust and a steve wong chip,drilled out air box..the thing sounds great..i have owned a 993 and absolutely love the looks of the 993..its by far my favorite looking 911..i would also like more power.
for whatever its worth,i drive on country roads only..no track..no traffic..i go for long hard drives..honestly i am leaning towards the 96 cause its red and black like my 87...the 95 is a c4..its green (adventurine ??)and black..i dont think i have seen this color in person,but i will say that i dont love the color..thanks guys
for whatever its worth,i drive on country roads only..no track..no traffic..i go for long hard drives..honestly i am leaning towards the 96 cause its red and black like my 87...the 95 is a c4..its green (adventurine ??)and black..i dont think i have seen this color in person,but i will say that i dont love the color..thanks guys
10-20-2007, 06:21 PM
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I too just bought a '95- but simply because of condition and mileage- I really did not care one way or another.
But the basket handle thing is funny- It is one of many mods that people do but it changes the original character of the car. So people put carbon dashes in, put three spoke steering wheels instead of the original, change the badge to a silver one..... no improvement but all steps away from original. Now that CTR front bumper is BETTER than the original and is an improvement, same with those RUF wheels.... I know, this makes no sense but it originates with the idea that the original designers of the car knew what they were doing and did one heck of good job and you really have to spend a lot of money on a part to get something which is actually better than the original.....
But the basket handle thing is funny- It is one of many mods that people do but it changes the original character of the car. So people put carbon dashes in, put three spoke steering wheels instead of the original, change the badge to a silver one..... no improvement but all steps away from original. Now that CTR front bumper is BETTER than the original and is an improvement, same with those RUF wheels.... I know, this makes no sense but it originates with the idea that the original designers of the car knew what they were doing and did one heck of good job and you really have to spend a lot of money on a part to get something which is actually better than the original.....
10-20-2007, 08:55 PM
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There are a lot of threads on this. The '95 is also subject to clogging of the SAI ports, but the OBD-1 doesn't look at it, so you won't get an error code, and will be able to pass smog inspection. Some have had success cleaning the SAI ports, and have avoided a top end overhaul. The 96+ has the Varioram induction and makes a bit more power. 95's are easier to chip and don't have the immobilizer issues. 95's also have the basket handle. If you do a search, you'll find more. IMHO, there are pros and cons for both, so buy the better car as you see it.
if i had to do it again and was looking for a non-wide body coupe i'd go '95 all day.
10-20-2007, 09:21 PM
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But the basket handle thing is funny- It is one of many mods that people do but it changes the original character of the car. So people put carbon dashes in, put three spoke steering wheels instead of the original, change the badge to a silver one..... no improvement but all steps away from original. Now that CTR front bumper is BETTER than the original and is an improvement, same with those RUF wheels.... I know, this makes no sense but it originates with the idea that the original designers of the car knew what they were doing and did one heck of good job and you really have to spend a lot of money on a part to get something which is actually better than the original.....
By the way, from what I understand, Porsche spec'd out the early US 993's with the basket handle third brake light from the targa and cab because they had not yet received US federal approval for the window third brake light. By removing the basket handle, owners are bringing the character of the coupes back to the way Porsche wanted the cars to look for the US market and are, IMHO, not even close to changing the character of the car.